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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    Well, with the curse coming in, I just assumed it all eventually died off.
    I came to tentatively believe it is 'hidden'. God place angels to guard it..

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    The bible is specific about the location of the Garden isn't it? And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads. The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold; And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone. And the name of the second river is Gihon: the same is it that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia. And the name of the third river is Hiddekel: that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river is Euphrates.
    (Genesis 2:10-14 KJV)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quest View Post
    I came to tentatively believe it is 'hidden'. God place angels to guard it..
    If it had been hidden then there would be no need for the flaming sword going back and forth, that is a clear deterrent mechanism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quest View Post
    The bible is specific about the location of the Garden isn't it? And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads. The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold; And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone. And the name of the second river is Gihon: the same is it that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia. And the name of the third river is Hiddekel: that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river is Euphrates.
    (Genesis 2:10-14 KJV)
    That description doesn't currently make any geographical sense, unless some of the terms are mistranslated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    If it had been hidden then there would be no need for the flaming sword going back and forth, that is a clear deterrent mechanism.
    The flaming sword is what is hiding...? Not a deterrent like a wall

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    That description doesn't currently make any geographical sense, unless some of the terms are mistranslated.
    OR the geology changed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quest View Post
    OR the geology changed?
    Well that is where I am coming from. It took time for the curse to consume things. Eventually the garden died out along with the tree due to changes by the curse. You have to take into the effects of the curse over time. Everything wasn't instant in the physical realm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quest View Post
    OR the geology changed?
    Possible, but rivers don't run from Ethiopia to Assyria or vice versa. Jewish writers before Christ would however know that so I'm not so sure the terms are translated correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    Well that is where I am coming from. It took time for the curse to consume things. Eventually the garden died out along with the tree due to changes by the curse. You have to take into the effects of the curse over time. Everything wasn't instant in the physical realm.
    Evidence of that in the Bible ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quest View Post
    The flaming sword is what is hiding...? Not a deterrent like a wall
    It's on fire, a war sign. A deterrent to whoever would think about approaching to get past it.

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