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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    The 7 tithes in three years that the law prescribes is part of the ceremonial law. Paul discusses the ceremonial law in Colossians :

    Col 2:16 Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. '
    17 These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ

    Heb 10:1 The law is only a shadow of the good things that are coming—not the realities themselves

    The tithes of the law are a shadow of the things that were to come, the reality of offering oneself and everything one has on God's altar is however found in Christ. Seeking God's kingdom and his righteousness first by obeying this new covenant command, will move God to bless us with abundance on top of that. Not including oneself under the ceremonial law or in Abraham's paying tribute of the war spoils according to local custom.
    God makes certain promises to all who would tithe their tenth. They are still active and available to us. God's word never fails---even in 2015.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lively Stone View Post
    God makes certain promises to all who would tithe their tenth. They are still active and available to us. God's word never fails---even in 2015.
    In Deuteronomy 28-29 there is a list of promises and curses that all apply according to whether one keeps all the commandments of the law, including the ceremonial ones, or one doesn't. Then the new covenant has :

    2 Corinthians 1:20 For all the promises of God in Him are Yes, and in Him Amen, to the glory of God through us.

    So all those promises have received their yes and amen in Christ. Does that mean that we should now keep all the commandments in the ceremonial law, as Deuteronomy 28-29 talks about and the verse from Malachi discusses specifically in relation to the parts of the ceremonial law discussing tithes ? Nope.

    There are commandments in the ceremonial law about not eating shellfish, not mixing certain types of fabric, commandments concerning menstruating women and the seats they previously sat on etc. We can't separate out commandments from the ceremonial law and go with those in order to get God's blessings and skip the other parts of the ceremonial law. There is no provision made for that either in the old or the new covenant.

    The blessings have received their yes and amen in Christ but their release is no longer based on keeping the law, whether the moral or the ceremonial law which the tithes are part of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lively Stone View Post
    God makes certain promises to all who would tithe their tenth. They are still active and available to us. God's word never fails---even in 2015.
    Actually if you are going to receive the blessing of the part of the ceremonial law that involves the tithes by keeping the commandments involved then you will have to pay 7/30 of your income and not 1/10 because that is what the ceremonial law required and that is what the verse from Malachi discusses. The only thing that would have happened if you had approached the Levites with 1/10 of your income is that they would have demanded that you would complete your obligation involving the remaining 4/30. There is no provision made anywhere for reducing the total tithing burden from 7/30 to 1/10, that is a perversion of the set of commandments being discussed.

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    We tithers do what the Lord commended. We give 10% of our income to the Lord. He blesses it and does so abundantly. You need to increase your faith and believe more. God still honors His Word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikos View Post
    We tithers do what the Lord commended. We give 10% of our income to the Lord. He blesses it and does so abundantly. You need to increase your faith and believe more. God still honors His Word.
    No you don't, the law requires that 7/30 of your income be payed for it to release its blessings as mentioned in Malachi. You are consequently withholding 4/30. Or more than half of what the law requires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    No you don't, the law requires that 7/30 of your income be payed for it to release its blessings as mentioned in Malachi. You are consequently withholding 4/30. Or more than half of what the law requires.
    You are the one under law, not me! I give my tithe as an act of obedient faith. And God blesses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikos View Post
    You are the one under law, not me! I give my tithe as an act of obedient faith. And God blesses.
    Why would he bless your act of paying 3/7 of the tithe that Malachi discusses ?

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    You are still talking LAW. You have no argument without it. What I am doing pre-dates the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikos View Post
    You are still talking LAW. You have no argument without it. What I am doing pre-dates the law.
    So in other words you have abandoned your claim to the blessings mentioned in Malachi based on your particular version of tithing.

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    When we tithe, we receive many blessings from God.

    "Give,and it will be given to you. A good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over, will be poured into your lap" (Luke 6:38).

    And what blessings were promised to the people of Israel, if they would once again tithe!

    "Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house.Test and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that you will not have room enough for it. I will prevent pests from devouring your crops, and the vines in your fields will not cast their fruit," says the Lord Almighty (Malachi 3:10-12).

    We are also told that when we give to others, we give to God:

    "He who is kind to the poor lends to the Lord, and he will reward him for what he has done" (Proverbs 19:17).

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