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10-05-2015, 09:34 PM
#111
Senior Member
Originally Posted by
A.J.
I love fried baloney.
Why is it that I am not surprised.
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10-28-2015, 02:47 PM
#112
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Originally Posted by
njtom
To me, it makes more sense to donate to the poor (or a charity that helps the poor) than to a rich pastor who lives in a big mansion and drives a Mercedes.
Exactly, as long as the charity is a GOSPEL charity centered around getting folks saved and making disciples.
Giving to charities that are not Christ centered... is throwing money down the toilet since they are not lifting up Jesus Christ and bringing glory unto the Father.
Originally Posted by
Colonel
I believe in tithing too. But I don't practice it, for obvious reasons.
Where your heart is, your treasure will be also... too bad to hear your heart is not with the Lord first since if it were your first order of financial business would be to support the establishment of God's Covenant (Duet 8:18).
But, supporting the Lord's work in the earth before anything else... is not for everyone.
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10-28-2015, 05:41 PM
#113
Senior Member
Originally Posted by
Farm Truck
Where your heart is, your treasure will be also... too bad to hear your heart is not with the Lord first since if it were your first order of financial business would be to support the establishment of God's Covenant (Duet 8:18).
But, supporting the Lord's work in the earth before anything else... is not for everyone.
Talk about inserting words into my mouth.
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10-28-2015, 06:30 PM
#114
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Originally Posted by
Colonel
Talk about inserting words into my mouth.
No, it was your actions... you specifically stated that you do not tithe.
Paying the tithe is about putting the Lord first, and it's also about sowing and reaping since Gal 6:7,8 says what we sow is what we reap so God desires us to pay tithes which is part of a covenant relationship. (Most Christians today have little to no understanding of the Blood Covenant of Jesus Christ since apparently few preachers understand it.)
If He didn't, He would not have mentioned it in the Book of Hebrews saying Jesus is accepting the tithe. Jesus does not accept anything that is not the will of the Father.
Jus sayin.
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10-28-2015, 06:46 PM
#115
Senior Member
I think this is where Fuego steps in to point out that Jesus didn't accept a tithe in Hebrews, not even of the war spoils like Melchizedek did. Deja vu.
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10-29-2015, 09:50 AM
#116
Senior Member
Originally Posted by
Farm Truck
No, it was your actions... you specifically stated that you do not tithe.
Paying the tithe is about putting the Lord first, and it's also about sowing and reaping since Gal 6:7,8 says what we sow is what we reap so God desires us to pay tithes which is part of a covenant relationship. (Most Christians today have little to no understanding of the Blood Covenant of Jesus Christ since apparently few preachers understand it.)
If He didn't, He would not have mentioned it in the Book of Hebrews saying Jesus is accepting the tithe. Jesus does not accept anything that is not the will of the Father.
Jus sayin.
Well, Nikos has been unable to produce scriptural evidence for your pet religious practice. I hope maybe you will make a better attempt.
In order to make a NT church doctrine, we need to see if it was a doctrine which was actually taught to the NT church.
How do we do that?
We look at what Jesus taught His disciples/apostles, and then we need to look at how they responded to His teachings.
Next, we need to look at what they taught to the church in their epistles.
The burden of proof would be on you at this point. Please show scriptural proof which supports your doctrine. And remember: CONTEXT, CONTEXT, CONTEXT!
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10-29-2015, 03:03 PM
#117
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Originally Posted by
Colonel
Jesus didn't accept a tithe in Hebrews
Sure He does... cause He's the One that abides forever and the purpose of that section of scripture is to teach us about Jesus being our High Priest and is clearly states that Jesus is a priest fashioned after Melchizedek. In other words, Jesus is doing now what Melchizedek did then.
You can look at this from God's point of view which is the mind/understanding that Jesus uses, or from mankind's point of view which is being carnally minded. Some people's opinion on this leans towards looking at this from man's point of view because manklind enjoys rebellion and does not want anybody telling them what do do.
Jesus is watching to see who walks in covenant with Him and who doesn't so He can reward accordingly.
The good news for non-tithers is... I don't see anywhere in the Word where it says this is salvation critical, so carry on...
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10-29-2015, 03:30 PM
#118
Senior Member
Melchizedek received a tenth of the war plunder. Jesus receives us, everything we are and have. That is new testament, the Catholic singular tithing doctrine is found nowhere.
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10-30-2015, 11:01 AM
#119
Senior Member
Originally Posted by
Farm Truck
Sure He does... cause He's the One that abides forever and the purpose of that section of scripture is to teach us about Jesus being our High Priest and is clearly states that Jesus is a priest fashioned after Melchizedek. In other words, Jesus is doing now what Melchizedek did then.
You can look at this from God's point of view which is the mind/understanding that Jesus uses, or from mankind's point of view which is being carnally minded. Some people's opinion on this leans towards looking at this from man's point of view because manklind enjoys rebellion and does not want anybody telling them what do do.
Jesus is watching to see who walks in covenant with Him and who doesn't so He can reward accordingly.
The good news for non-tithers is... I don't see anywhere in the Word where it says this is salvation critical, so carry on...
Still waiting for you to lay out an actual scriptural case to prove your doctrine. The last person couldn't do it, but instead decided to just keep repeating a mantra of a partial scripture taken out of context to stand on.
If this doctrine is meant for the NT church, then their will be evidence of it being taught by the apostles to the Church.
All scripture is profitable for doctrine. Without scriptural proof, you have a man-made religious doctrine.
If you are indeed convinced that this is a true NT doctrine, then you should surely be able to teach it to others by using scripture.
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10-31-2015, 10:13 AM
#120
Senior Member
The only people making the biggest noise about tithing are those who refuse to do it. Those who do it are pleased to do so and are happily going about their business, blessed as promised.
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