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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    Many years ago I prayed for a lady who was saved and filled with the Holy Spirit and then God did the most unique thing I have ever seen him do with a person.

    He began to let her see into the future and as a new born baby believer she saw things she had no idea what she was seeing.

    She began to describe the millennium period and she was bewildered with what she saw.

    Let me say clearly God knows the future so he can show a totally new baby believer what will happen 100%.

    The amazing things she saw has no parallel with anything we can compare to in this life even with all the incredible modern technology.
    We are living in a sandpit like children building sandcastles compared to what God has in store

    Even with our redeemed spirit we will never know the fullness of God and we should be thankful for what he shows us....the future will be a never ending revelation of Gods glory and greatness.

    God has chosen to condescend to our level and has revealed himself to us with what we need now but let us not assume we can fully understand the eternal God
    Amen!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    Agree with that ...God wouldn't be divine if he didn't know all things
    Case and point: How does God know who will be saved?

    The ultimate decision for individual salvation rests with God and not with us. "No one can come to Me (Christ) unless the Father who sent Me draws him..."(Jn 6:44).
    God makes that choice, an individuals salvation, based on His foreknowledge. He chooses for eternal life those whom He knows will choose Him, because it rests on God's foreknowledge of human decision or acts.

    God reserves the right to have mercy upon whom He will have mercy. No one receives injustice. God is not obligated to be merciful to any or to all alike. It is His decision how merciful He chooses to be. Yet He is never guilty of being unrighteous toward anyone. "There is no injustice with God. I will have mercy on whom I have mercy" (Rm 9:14-15).

    Let me sum this up mentioning that God is a divine being that is infinite and eternal, is capable of knowing everything. God, being infinite, is able to be aware of all things, to understand all things, and to comprehend all things. He never learns anything or acquires new knowledge. He is the same yesterday, today, and forever, and He never changes. The future as well as the past and present are completely known by Him. He is surprised by nothing. He knows all because He created it all and He has willed it all. God's knowledge is absolute in the sense that He is forever aware of all things. The omniscience of God is also a crucial part of God's promise to bring about justice and judgment in the closing of this current evil age in which we find ourselves living. God will leave no stone un-turned. Nothing will be hid from the scrutiny of God.
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    How Does God Express His Wrath? (Pt. 2)

    But after that our fathers had provoked the God of heaven unto wrath, he gave them into the hand of Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon, the Chaldean, who destroyed this house, and carried the people away into Babylon. (Ezra 5:12; KJV)

    But because our ancestors made the God of Heaven angry, he let them be conquered by King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylonia, a king of the Chaldean dynasty. The Temple was destroyed, and the people were taken into exile in Babylonia. (Good News Translation)

    Commentary: God’s “wrath” is not expressed by God destroying His people using His omnipotent power. Wrath is the removal of His protection and permitting hostile forces to have their way with those He once protected. God often begged and pleaded with His people to put away their idolatry and serve Him but the people preferred their idols over the true God. God was left with no choice but to allow them to have what they want along with the consequences of their choices. This is how God’s wrath is expressed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by victoryword View Post
    Commentary: God’s “wrath” is not expressed by God destroying His people using His omnipotent power.
    Not in the verses you quoted. Other verses say something different. As Psalm 119:160 says "the sum of your word is truth".

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    Psalm 90:11 Who understands the power of Your anger
    And Your fury, according to the fear that is due You?

    So according to Moses who saw God face to face, the fear of the Lord demands that one studies and understands the power of God's anger and fury.

    So does that imply that one should study "the depths of Satan" since God's anger and fury are allegedly merely permissive and are expressed solely through the works of Satan ?

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    Romans 12:19 Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord.

    So I'm supposed to give place to Satan's works to be permitted by God to happen ? And read it as "Vengeance is Mine, I will permit Satan to repay, says the Lord" ?

    Victoryword keeps reading every single verse that involves God's executing his wrath as if the verb involved in in the passive voice. "I will let them be repaid" or "I will permit them to be repaid". The Koine Greek that's used in the New Testament is however precise. It has three different voices for the verbs : active, middle and passive. The Greek word translated as "repay" in "I will repay, says the Lord" is :

    antapodidomi

    It's in the passive voice in a few verses in the NT :

    Luke 14:14 And you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you; for you shall be repaid at the resurrection of the just.

    The one receiving a reward in heaven isn't repaying himself so it makes sense that the second occurence of repay is in the passive voice.

    Romans 11:35 “Or who has first given to Him
    And it shall be repaid to him?"

    Same here, the recompense doesn't repay itself so it makes sense that repay is in the passive voice.

    In Romans 12:19 above the word is in the active voice :

    "Vengeance is Mine, I will actively repay, says the Lord"

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