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    The Unjust Steward

    Luke 16:8 And the lord commended the unjust steward, because he had done wisely; for the children of this world are in their generation wiser than the children of light.
    I have a friend, saved, who pretty much justifies a lot of sketchy behaviour based on that scripture.

    What say you? Can we cut corners, be "shrewd".

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    The next verse :

    9 I tell you, use worldly wealth to gain friends for yourselves, so that when it is gone, you will be welcomed into eternal dwellings.

    The goal is to be welcomed into the friends' eternal dwellings meaning they have also gotten into heaven and are thankful towards us. So the theme seems to be employing wealth in order to get people saved.

    Note that this parable follows directly after the parable of the prodigal son and can be seen as a continuation of that theme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    The next verse :

    9 I tell you, use worldly wealth to gain friends for yourselves, so that when it is gone, you will be welcomed into eternal dwellings.

    The goal is to be welcomed into the friends' eternal dwellings meaning they have also gotten into heaven and are thankful towards us. So the theme seems to be employing wealth in order to get people saved.

    Note that this parable follows directly after the parable of the prodigal son and can be seen as a continuation of that theme.
    The context:

    http://biblehub.com/niv/luke/16.htm

    > Note that this parable follows directly after the parable of the prodigal son and can be seen as a continuation of that theme.

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    Not sure what that comment adds, John.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    Not sure what that comment adds, John.
    The parable of the prodigal pretty much stands alone, at least in the message that is being conveyed. The parable of the unjust manager is apart from that, a different lesson, so to speak. Topically, one is not the continuation of the other.

    I am trying to focus on the parable of the shrewd manager and it's implications for Christian living, the prodigal parable can be another topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    I have a friend, saved, who pretty much justifies a lot of sketchy behaviour based on that scripture.

    What say you? Can we cut corners, be "shrewd".

    You can't base your actions on one verse a dangerous position

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    Jesus' speech begins in Luke 15:3 and is not interrupted until 16:14. The chapter and verse boundaries are irrelevant, they were added by monks later and are not inspired. His speech includes :

    The Parable of the lost sheep 15:3-7
    The Parable of the lost coin 15:8-10
    The Parable of the prodigal son 15:11-32
    The Parable of the shrewd manager 16:1-13

    The first three all deal with people being brought to repentance and salvation. It is only natural that the last one follows up on the same theme. The fact that the friends gained with money welcome one into "eternal dwellings" proves that the theme is still salvation into heaven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    Jesus' speech begins in Luke 15:3 and is not interrupted until 16:14. The chapter and verse boundaries are irrelevant, they were added by monks later and are not inspired. His speech includes :

    The Parable of the lost sheep 15:3-7
    The Parable of the lost coin 15:8-10
    The Parable of the prodigal son 15:11-32
    The Parable of the shrewd manager 16:1-13

    The first three all deal with people being brought to repentance and salvation. It is only natural that the last one follows up on the same theme. The fact that the friends gained with money welcome one into "eternal dwellings" proves that the theme is still salvation into heaven.
    Thanks for staying on topic Colonel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    Jesus' speech begins in Luke 15:3 and is not interrupted until 16:14. The chapter and verse boundaries are irrelevant, they were added by monks later and are not inspired. His speech includes :

    The Parable of the lost sheep 15:3-7
    The Parable of the lost coin 15:8-10
    The Parable of the prodigal son 15:11-32
    The Parable of the shrewd manager 16:1-13

    The first three all deal with people being brought to repentance and salvation. It is only natural that the last one follows up on the same theme. The fact that the friends gained with money welcome one into "eternal dwellings" proves that the theme is still salvation into heaven.
    Actually you are correct on this Colonel. All of these passages ARE in context and a continuation of teaching. This is the reason we don't understand many things Jesus taught is because we don't keep them in context. When you see that much red letters all at once, you can almost be guaranteed the stories are all connected in some way. As a matter of fact, the discourse and connection carries all the way through to Luke 17:10. You also said:

    "The goal is to be welcomed into the friends' eternal dwellings meaning they have also gotten into heaven and are thankful towards us. So the theme seems to be employing wealth in order to get people saved."

    This is exactly the point of the parable. He is commending the unjust steward for having the wisdom to use money as a means to an end. And likewise, as believers, if we are wise we will use money as a means to the end of getting people saved. It's about the proper use of money.

    As far as John's friend, he is taking it totally out of context and using it for something that Jesus never had any intention of teaching from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    Luke 16:8 And the lord commended the unjust steward, because he had done wisely; for the children of this world are in their generation wiser than the children of light.
    I have a friend, saved, who pretty much justifies a lot of sketchy behaviour based on that scripture.
    What say you? Can we cut corners, be "shrewd".
    It could be that the unjust steward had inflated the amounts owed to his master in order to (dishonestly) take a commission himself. When accused by his master, he repents and reduces the amounts owed to what they should have been in the first place.

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