Thread: How NOT to be a legalistic believer #1 - John Fenn

Originally Posted by fuego

I really like this part. There is some confession (Westminster?) that talks about how every day we sin in thought, deed, etc. and nothing could be further from the truth. We are saints of God (there are over 30 scriptures that state that about believers), cleansed from sin, new creatures in Christ, and we don't wake up a 'sinner' every day having to work ourselves into fellowship every day. And God understands we have things we have to do to live in this world and it is not a sin not to have your mind directly on Him or directly thinking about Him every moment of the day. As we pursue our daily activities in love for God, love for our family, etc. we are walking in fellowship with Him.

Amen.

Originally Posted by wheeze

feug are you into house churches?

Well I'm not against them. lol.

And did attend one for awhile until they stopped it. Why do you ask?

Originally Posted by fuego

When I posted I got it from an email. The post hadn't been posted on his site yet, so no link to the article at the time. Maybe you should ask instead of accusing me of 'ripping a bro'.

Posted October 7th, 2016 by staff in Balanced Living, Christian Living, House Church, Weekly Thoughts

My bad!

Originally Posted by John

My bad!

I didn't find where you went. I went to Articles/Weekly Thoughts. It was not posted there when I started this thread. I started this thread the 28th. Where I went to find the post:

October 29, 2016 in Balanced Living, Christian Living, House Church, Weekly Thoughts by staff

Yep! Your bad!

Originally Posted by fuego

I really like this part. There is some confession (Westminster?) that talks about how every day we sin in thought, deed, etc. and nothing could be further from the truth. We are saints of God (there are over 30 scriptures that state that about believers), cleansed from sin, new creatures in Christ, and we don't wake up a 'sinner' every day having to work ourselves into fellowship every day. And God understands we have things we have to do to live in this world and it is not a sin not to have your mind directly on Him or directly thinking about Him every moment of the day. As we pursue our daily activities in love for God, love for our family, etc. we are walking in fellowship with Him.

The rest of faith In Christ...

Originally Posted by fuego

Well I'm not against them. lol.

And did attend one for awhile until they stopped it. Why do you ask?

just wondering...

Originally Posted by wheeze

just wondering...

It just hit me that Fenn is a house church guy. Is that why you're wondering?

Fenn is actually a Rhema grad, went the same time I did, but I didn't know him then. A good friend of mine is a good friend of his and I met him and drove him around when he came to our church in Pensacola back in the Brownsville revival days (after the split). I agree with a lot of the house church stuff. I go to an 'institutional' church (Bethel Atlanta) but they do have house groups. Don't get to go due to our current circumstances.

Originally Posted by Colonel

From the sermon "Praise the Lord" from 1918 by Aimee Semple McPherson :

"Jesus says: 'What things soever you desire when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.'
Now, if we ask God to give us a certain answer to prayer, and we then proceed to believe we have it, it is only polite to begin to thank Him for it, in other words, shoot upward through the prayer zone into the praise zone, and thank God beforehand that, according to His word, it is done."

Thanksgiving is the voice of faith.

Just one little thing to correct in what she said though. Just basically a technicality though. She said, "we then proceed to believe we have it..." Actually the verse says to believe we receive, THEN we shall have it. We don't believe we have it. We believe we receive it, because we don't actually have it yet in the physical/manifested sense.

And giving thanks for it IS the 'believing we receive' part.

Her comment is perhaps more in line with the previous verse which she didn't quote :

Mark 11:23 For assuredly, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be removed and be cast into the sea,’ and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that those things he says will be done, he will have whatever he says.

What I find amazing is that she is perfectly in line with basic Word of Faith teaching, just like Smith Wigglesworth was. In the next sentence she connects the principle to healing but also to deliverance from all kinds of other problems.