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    Day 7
    Yesterday at our gathering the pastor opened with a statement..'I do not believe healing is for everyone. Otherwise we would never die.'
    Way back in the day I taught healing at a church, and after it was over, a person came up to me and said, "If people don't get sick, then how will we die?" She as your pastor. A head-slapping mentality. You just die of old age. It's your time to go and you go.

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    Day 11

    Today the church has been reduced to a religion with no power...not all, but the question is, what about ME...Have I allowed myself to be influenced by this watered down concept? Absolutely..it is far easier to be a hearer of the Word and not a doer..Absolutely because it is less sacrificial, it is more convenient, and it allows me to pursue my own plans..but as the passage of the day states

    Proverbs 19:20-21
    "Listen to counsel and accept discipline, that you might be wise the rest of your days. many plans are in a man's heart but the counsel of the LORD will stand."

    I keep coming back to EXPECT...to faith that does not expect is not faith...or faith that expects AMISS....

    In my gathering on day 1 the three obstacles to Bible faith...unbelief, don't ask or ask amiss.
    And being careful to HEED what we hear and act on it expectantly will lead us through the process of rooting out doubt...

    2 Chronicles 16:9 For he eyes of the LORD run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to show Himself strong on behalf of those whose heart is loyal to Him...

    King ASA's response? Rather than repent for placing his faith in thee LORD who had not failed him in the past, he trusted something else.

    The eyes of the Lord are running to and fro...LORD I want YOU to find me loyal and expectant today..I choose to be Loyal and expectant today..if I leave this to chance, I will fill my day with MY will and not YOURS...Holy Spirit, discipline and counsel me today as I commit to HEED Your voice of leading and instruction..I EXPECT YOU to increase revelation of Jesus' will today..to increase faith and replace doubt and unbelief...I commit today to take every thought captive that does not embrace expectancy, and compassion and obedience and bring them into alliance with the truths YOU led me to in day 1-7 and are affirming in me each day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    Way back in the day I taught healing at a church, and after it was over, a person came up to me and said, "If people don't get sick, then how will we die?" She as your pastor. A head-slapping mentality. You just die of old age. It's your time to go and you go.
    Absolutely...the body does not have to force us out...God can simply call us out of it... :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quest View Post
    Absolutely...the body does not have to force us out...God can simply call us out of it... :)
    We will die of old age even if we never get sick and God doesn't do anything to "call us out of it". The body isn't immortal.

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    Day 12...Luke 10:38-43

    I am not going to elaborate on this at the moment...a very unique issue is being addressed within that fits the phrase, "Troubled about MANY THINGS" that, after several hours, seems to be revealing an issue I thought was dealt with years ago....Let's just say for now I am going to sit at Jesus' feet in submission and intercession...letting HIM reveal thoughts that need to be taken captive...MAY edit later..

    Edited..only want to add that yesterday when I woke up I was under an obvious attack...An old independent spirit was present as soon as I woke and I felt anger and resentment. But I recognized them and essentially I had to just remain silent throughout the day and retain a singular truth..submission and trust knowing that the Lord would lead me to the right choices..
    And He did...sometimes it is far better to just remain silent and hold fast in faith when feelings are raging...I know this was another step in what the Lord is speaking and doing in and through me.
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    Day 13

    I have a lot to do today but spent an hour or so listening to Acts 4-8 and jotting down thoughts;Specifically all the various miracles in this passage that include, healings, deliverances, jail releases, shaking the house in answer to the prayer of faith for boldness, Stephan's many miracles including the vision as he died and the Phillip's word of instruction to go meet and teach the Eunuch who was seeking the Lord...and then his miraculous translation to another place..

    Dear Lord, when missionaries are imprisoned we rely on governments and negotiations to get them released...we rely on YOU to lead seekers to church for someone else to minister to...and we declare foul and rant when a believer is persecuted...it seems we, Your people are not relying on YOU to work in and through us in the supernatural, but are relying heavily on carnal resources...even Pentecostals and full gospel churches no longer expect miracles and power to manifest, much less on a regular basis...GOD HELP US/ME GET BACK TO THE TRUTH manifesting in my day to day life! And I thank YOU for leading me through the attack and snare the enemy set yesterday. Today I recommit to be attentive to Your leading and opportunities to witness and pray for others and be used to heal or deliver as YOU lead. I will be attentive to take each step with the Holy Spirit in mind....

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    Day 14

    Today I listened to Acts Chapter 8-16. One passage grabbed me. Acts 16:13

    13 And on the Sabbath day we went outside the gate to a riverside, where we were supposing that there would be a place of prayer; and we sat down and began speaking to the women who had assembled.

    They went to pray and instead met others and shared the gospel...


    And then Job 31:33 Have I covered my transgressions like Adam, by hiding them in my bosom?

    Job asked this question in regard to the circumstance he found himself in...it is a reasonable question but the answer is not always 'yes'.

    Dear Lord, as I seek Your face reveal what needs to be uncovered, cut away with the sword of Your Word separating...The desire to give up this quest at exposing doubt and unbelief has faded some and the decision to listen with INTENT and EXPECTATION seems to be, becoming more normal to me now...My desire in this is to gain certainty that I am where YOU want me to be and doing what YOU want me to do, rather than assume it is because it is where I am...
    In a couple of forum talks today I was reminded of some things...specifically how partial revelation which God spoke to me about on day 2.

    Father you are after my WILL first and foremost...and I can say I give you my will but that does not make it so...break me Lord and expose what may be hidden in my bosom as I seek your face in prayerful fellowship...and as I share with others....

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    Day 15- 17

    Going to do a very brief summation for now..we are doing winter prep here on my mini 'homestead'.

    On Day 15 I listened to Acts 6-8
    I prayed about the 'weak' powerlessness of the body of Christ and was reminded of the Varroa Mite...these tiny mites invade a bee hive but they don't harm the bees, but like mosquitos and ticks they carry viruses and infect the bees so over time they become weak and die, especially in winter when the bee count ha been reduced to the minimum for winter survival..I was reminded of the 'little foxes that spoil the vine' and the leaven that leavens the whole lump. No matter how right we think our teachers are we need to look at the level of power and authority we are functioning in, they are functioning in, an ask ourselves..honestly do we/I look like the NT church? Varroa can be detected with tests but the fact is they are not visible to a visual inspection, only the evidence. I read a story where the beekeeper bout bees supposedly genetically impervious to varroa and found his entire hive dead..varroa for sure? no because he did not test...he assumed they were just fine...dangerous..
    Lord, I believe we are infected with deception...and sadly I believe most don't believe they are..help ME by revealing what is the truth in MY inner being....

    Day 16-17
    Two Men..Simon the sorcerer and Paul/Saul..
    The difference in these to men is stark. Paul was sincere but sincerely wrong and when confronted he repented, turned and went apart to be taught of the Lord..Again I am reminded that so many trust their leaders and why? because they agree with them, not because they are right...but because we assume they are right because we agree...where are the Christians who challenge this comfortable mindset? Who go aide to be taught of the LORD..Paul, a man thoroughly educated in the scriptures recognized he was blind and needed the Lord to rewire him from the inside...humility..total commitment to Christ which gave him the boldness to not only confront Pharisees but to confront even the Apostles..


    Then we have Simon Acts 8:9-23
    Simon had believed and been baptized and continued with Philip and was amazed at the miracles and signs. Vs 19-23 When he say the Holy Spirit given by the laying on of hands he tried to buy that but Peter reprimands him for not understating the gift is free and cannot be bought but he also recognized Simon was filed with bitterness and bound by iniquity...Simon wanted the power and authority but the bitterness and iniquity was WHY he wanted them. A show I really like is Once Upon A Time and Rumpelstiltskin reminds me of Simon..he fell in love with someone who loved him unconditionally and 'tried to change' but the bitterness of his past, fear, lack of courage, rejection..

    The Holy Spirit is pointing me to how infections of bitterness and unwillingness to recognize Him exposing them causes us to 'ask amiss' for His gifts and authority. While we have authority He does not release us or confirm that authority in us to others due to this...

    Dear Lord, reveal and root out any 'bitterness' or 'deception' that is limiting me from functioning 100% in Your leading and Your anointing...I reaffirm my willingness to repent and turn from whatever YOU reveal during my time of soaking in Your presence..sitting at Your feet...

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    Day 32


    ...on my intentional focused 21 day Detox the Holy Spirit revealed a bitter memory that has been affecting my motives and my journey from time to time. According to Dr Leaf. we deal with that by applying the scriptural truth to that memory, and revist it for 63? days as it takes about that long to totally transform the memory..so I will revisit this capsuled version while beginning another 21 day journey of intentional focused reading, meditation and prayer for Him to transform another area..

    Capsule version: Three hindrances to faith are doubt and unbelief, asking amiss or not asking. Revelation of truth comes in stages and we must be careful to allow it to come to full clarity or we risk stopping too soon and forming the wrong conclusion, 'belief'. Then He led me to Simon the sorcerer. But rather than highlight the miracle of Simon being blinded He led my attention to the bitterness and iniquity in Simon that compelled him to try to buy the GIFT of God..so I began to mediate on what would have happened to Simon that would cause such a bitterness that would drive him to seek out witchcraft...and suddenly I had an old memory pop up..but rather than say, 'Oh I remember that and push it back down, I have learned to take that memory and 'hold it in my hand for examination by Holy Spirit..I remember a painful event had caused me to feel powerless and victimized and thought about witchcraft to get even, to feel empowered...He showed me the feeling of powerless and hurt still lingered even though I repented of the thought of witchcraft. He then took me to King Saul 1 Samuel 15 and I came to understand this memory still had a root of bitterness and that even though this memory was buried in my subconscious, that sense of powerless and victimization still reared it's ugly head from time to time..so I have now specifically repented of that and am applying the scriptural truth to that lie...

    LONGER More detailed version for thos who don't mind reading a lot..:)

    It is an awe inspiring fact that when we ask God for something, an answer, guidance, change, He hears and answers but often reminds us in that answering process just how PERSONAL He is with each of us. And that is the significance of Dr Leaf's teaching...personal intimate transformation..

    I dropped off the study/blog here for 15 days...did not realize it had been that long...I did not record Day 18 but on Day 18 I read about King Saul, 1 Samuel 15. After reading this chapter I prayed a simple prayer. I knew God was speaking directly to me on this issue and had to be willing to take the memories resurrected and GIVE them to Him to heal and change...Lord reveal any memories that are affecting my desire affected by bitterness.

    Personal: In reading about Simon I began to mediate on what possibly made him bitter and ho that bitterness may have driven him to desire what God wanted for him through an impure heart..As the apostles said, it was a free gift and HE tried to buy it..in a sense EARN it to possess it but why? What would cause someone to desire 'power' to control others? What situation planted the seed of bitterness in him that he embraced? Love desires the same thing but for a very different motive...we can desire the things of God for what we believe are the right reasons but that be infected with iniquity or bitterness..only Holy Spirit can reveal this to us..

    HONESTY...at this point the Holy Spirit reminded me of a moment in time when I was young. I was sitting alone crying and hurt and angry but I do not recall why exactly but I believe I will..there were a few times I did this as a child due to my childhood..but this particular one I felt weak powerless, and small, powerless, victimized...I remember thinking of Wiccan and witchcraft to SHOW THEM! but rejected that..and I do recall praying. But what happened was that sense of powerlessness and weakness was suppressed, not healed with truth. Even though I knew witchcraft was Satanic based on what little truth I had in me I knew nothing of God's Holy Spirit and power at that time...I repented of the witchcraft thought but realize now the un dealt with memory has contaminated with that sense of powerlessness.

    I have read and thought of Samuel's statement to Saul, Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and would take pause but did not really linger there to find out what was lurking in a dark room of my soul..I just agreed with the passage and moved on....and now I see that from time to time, even though I would not act on it I felt rebellious ( timidity and wisdom rarely let me act on it, at least not outwardly) especially when being corrected or on issues of submission...but I did not know THE ROOT...After reading these three passages of Simon, Paul and King Saul I held that memory of me as a child in my hand and repented of it and asked the Lord to replace it with HIS love....

    Here is the beauty..God led me to this morning step by step, bread crumbs so to speak..

    After these passages and my prayer He spoke to me and said 'now rest' and so peace came and I began to just prayerfully flow through each day..taking time to SOAK..to clear my mind and listen to worship music, Ruth Fazal 'Revelations'.

    The next bread crumb was fuego's article by Fenn on legalism.

    Next bread crumb was my pastors message on not allowing ourselves to compare ourselves with ourselves but to trust what the Holy Spirit says about us...

    This morning Doc Lynch posted a message 'The Way We Were?' and said 'I tend to measure everything existentially now days.'

    Here is my DAY 32

    Yesterday is gone and tomorrow is not promised. Jesus said 'I am'. He did not say 'I was' or ' I want to be'. This truth does not mean we stop growing, but it does mean we simply get in step with Him today. Personally I have spent a couple of months beating myself up asking what I need to do to get where I need to be when suddenly (love those suddenly's :) a few day ago I sensed Him asking me a question, "What makes you sure you are not where I want you to be?" My response ws, "I want to be doing more for the Kingdom" followed by a short list. He responded, 'Then it is not necessarily that you are not where I want you to be but more that you are not where YOU want to be.."

    If we focus on where we were or where we want to be, I won't be resting in being in the I AM, which is where I want to be,,Today hear His voice and obey...

    So I believe God has been transforming thoughts arising due to this suppressed memory for years, but that negative memory stored in my memory banks was still affecting my motivations even though I had totally forgotten about it and had no idea it could still be affecting my desires negatively...By doing this He has restored my peace and rest...I will continue this path and process but now with a more free and peaceful and joyful expectancy for today...

    This process is fascination in that we get uncomfortable or read something that the still small voices says 'linger here'...and if we linger and mediate..

    I literally practiced several of the DISCIPLINES being discussed in the Christian Formation thread....Scripture reading, Meditation, Contemplative prayer, Journaling, Solitude...without all of these this would have been left to chance and possibly taken far longer than it needed to...

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    This process Dr Leaf teaches is so intentional..I was thinking of myself and others who I see speaking truth but not lingering there intentionally allowing that truth to transform Me/Us...And at first it seems really complex and hard but after working through it a few times, just like anything else, it begins to be who we are and that intentional discipline enables us to grow exponentially rather than haphazardly...

    I began with a sense that something is wrong..and started reading and gathering at that point of understanding...I was intentional and understood I was looking for something specific, not a generalized concept, Days 1-13 So when Holy Spirit had me linger on Simon although I did not want to admit thee might be bitterness, I lingered..Days 14-18 Then days 19-32 have been lingering, listening for His TRUTH to apply...

    This has not been a 'clean' and 'clear' process and this is likely because there are some other mind trees causing interference...and because it is a relatively new thing to give my growth such specific and personal INTENT..it is a trick of Satan to keep us busy and distracted, and ever learning but not coming to the KNOWLEDGE of the truth...in other words that truth not becoming who we are...how we think, how we feel...

    After revisiting Dr Leaf's blog this morning clarity came in her statement that thoughts contain both information and emotions. How often do we ignore the negative emotions by suppressing or dismissing the information...I could have said, 'Oh I was a kid then' or 'Oh, I knew that was a wrong thought and repented'...but I did not for 1 main reason...I have come to KNOW when Holy Spirit brings a seemingly random personal memory I need to take it in my minds eye and hold it out in my hands for HIS inspection and for HIM to reveal it true condition...the emotional attachment REVEALS the truth my reasoning mind may want to dismiss...that has NOT been transformed and even though I may not want to admit it, it IS affecting my responses and choices today...Over the next 32 more days I will be paying careful attention to my emotional responses to certain situations and deal with them with intention..so this memory tree is transformed and no longer affects my emotions or my choices...

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