Thread: Anyone for a heresy?

Originally Posted by FunFromOz

And Pentecostalism teaches that the final choice lies with man not God which is also a part of Semi-P.

Calvinism teaches that there is a God which is also part of Mormonism.

Originally Posted by Farm Truck

if Paul had not acknowledged Jesus, he would have lost his life that day and Jesus would have chosen someone else to take the gospel to the gentiles.

Where do you get that from?

It's not in "As he was traveling, it happened that he was approaching Damascus, and suddenly a light from heaven flashed around him;and he fell to the ground and heard a voice saying to him, “Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting Me?”And he said, “Who are You, Sir?” And He said, “I am Jesus whom you are persecuting,but get up and enter the city, and it will be told you what you must do.”"

Jesus knocked Saul to the ground and while he was lying there told him to get to the city where he would be told WHAT he MUST DO. Saul got no choice about it.

Originally Posted by Colonel

Calvinism teaches that there is a God which is also part of Mormonism.

But Mormonism and man choosing his own salvation are not Biblical.

Originally Posted by FunFromOz

But Mormonism and man choosing his own salvation are not Biblical.

It doesn't matter if Mormonism teaches about the goddess and such things, it has doctrines in common with Calvinism and therefore Calvinism is Mormonistic. Repent from your semi-Mormonism ! Your cat too !

Originally Posted by Colonel

It doesn't matter if Mormonism teaches about the goddess and such things, it has doctrines in common with Calvinism and therefore Calvinism is Mormonistic. Repent from your semi-Mormonism ! Your cat too !

It doesn't matter if Mormonism teaches about the goddess and such things, it has doctrines in common with Arminianism and therefore Arminianism is Mormonistic. Repent from your semi-Mormonism !

And Arminianism teaches that there is a God which is also part of Catholicism. Repent of your Catholicism.

And Hinduism teaches that there is a God

And Buddhism teaches that there is a God

etc.

What matters Colonel is that 1600 years ago the Christian Church rejected the idea that salvation is not entirely of God but that man plays a part in it.

(actually, I don't think Buddhism has a god)

What matters Colonel is that 1600 years ago the Christian Church rejected the idea that salvation is not entirely of God but that man plays a part in it.

There you go again... following catholics who don't follow God's written Word!

So, how often do you speak to mutha mary anywhow?

actually, I don't think Buddhism has a god

Isn't bootyism where each person is their own god?

Originally Posted by FunFromOz

What matters Colonel is that 1600 years ago the Christian Church rejected the idea that salvation is not entirely of God but that man plays a part in it.

Originally Posted by Farm Truck

There you go again... following catholics who don't follow God's written Word!

FT perhaps you should go away and study a bit of History. Until the East-West Schism of 1054 all there was was the Catholic Church and in it's early days it's teaching were Biblical.

Protestantism only came into existence in the 16th century which is 500 years ago. One thousand years before that the church was quiet Christian and Biblically correct.

Originally Posted by Bookman

You are clueless.

So clueless that some of the stuff you spout here is actually very Roman Catholic in origin; but then you know that because you know everything.

Originally Posted by FunFromOz

What matters Colonel is that 1600 years ago the Christian Church rejected the idea that salvation is not entirely of God but that man plays a part in it.

All Catholics and Orthodox are sovereign regenerationists ? That just goes to show how little you comprehend of what you are talking about. Did some crazy Calvinist preacher out there tell you that, that all "Arminians" are "Semi-Pelagians" ?

Originally Posted by Colonel

All Catholics and Orthodox are sovereign regenerationists ?

Not now, no. But that was early church teaching.

Originally Posted by Colonel

That just goes to show how little you comprehend of what you are talking about.

Or you misunderstood what I was trying to say.

Originally Posted by Colonel

Did some crazy Calvinist preacher out there tell you that, that all "Arminians" are "Semi-Pelagians" ?

No.

Definitions can differ depending on who you ask (and which side of the fence they're on) and there will be slight differences in the beliefs of two people sitting next to each other let alone formal church organisations.

However the extent to which one believes that salvation is a cooperative effort between man and God; the extent to which one believes that the ultimate final choice in salvation is with man; and the extent to which one believes God can be resisted, places one perhaps on the edge or perhaps in the middle of the (semi)Pelagian "camp".

All Arminians are in there somewhere as far as I can tell.