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    You're thinking too much.
    No, I'm not. I'm trying to figure out what terms mean that people use in fuzzy ways. Charismatics sometimes use terms to mean almost anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A.J. View Post
    Don't know if any of you saw this posted by anyone else on FB....

    Thank you for posting this. Hopefully there will be some resolution. Let judgment first begin in the house of the Lord.

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    Don't be so hostile just because I asked a followup question. I'll assume that that means that Paul had a stronger anointing than the average believer had. In what sense ? Is that based on the size of his task as given to him by God ? By the scale or volume of the miracles that he worked ?
    I recommend Hagin's book, "Understanding The Anointing".

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    From all indications I’ve seen, I tend to think Dr Michael Brown would be honest, fair, impartial? I doubt very seriously TB is going be totally vindicated and I still think his ministry is likely over regardless of the outcome.



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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    I won't play along with your "what ifs", you asked a question but you don't want an answer, but just in case anyone else is reading along, the anointing isn't about the man , it's all about what comes out of a man. All believers are anointed.

    From the man who carried a pretty strong "anointing":

    1 Corinthians 2:2 For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified.

    Park on that for awhile.
    I agree with John that all believers are anointed by God.
    Now He who establishes us with you in Christ and anointed us is God(2 Cor 1:20).
    But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you all know(1 Jn 2:20).

    I've heard people say, "there was a real 'anointing' present."
    These words are not technically biblical, but convey the idea of the Holy Spirit's presence "with power."
    So, I would conclude that the Holy Spirit's activities in a believers life are pictured in terms associated with anointing.
    A Christian who is anointed by God's Spirit enables the believer with His "power" to carry out some specific task.
    If you put God First, you have Him at Last.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
    I agree with John that all believers are anointed by God.
    Now He who establishes us with you in Christ and anointed us is God(2 Cor 1:20).
    But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you all know(1 Jn 2:20).

    I've heard people say, "there was a real 'anointing' present."
    These words are not technically biblical, but convey the idea of the Holy Spirit's presence "with power."
    So, I would conclude that the Holy Spirit's activities in a believers life are pictured in terms associated with anointing.
    A Christian who is anointed by God's Spirit enables the believer with His "power" to carry out some specific task.
    My impression is that someone who has a substantial anointing, meaning that the power of God works consistently through their lives, may experience a far greater anointing - as in presence and power of the Holy Spirit - if placed in a setting that requires it, like preaching in front of a very large group of people. Which makes it task specific.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
    I agree with John that all believers are anointed by God.
    Now He who establishes us with you in Christ and anointed us is God(2 Cor 1:20).
    But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you all know(1 Jn 2:20).

    I've heard people say, "there was a real 'anointing' present."
    These words are not technically biblical, but convey the idea of the Holy Spirit's presence "with power."
    So, I would conclude that the Holy Spirit's activities in a believers life are pictured in terms associated with anointing.
    A Christian who is anointed by God's Spirit enables the believer with His "power" to carry out some specific task.
    Yes. And another thing we get wrong is that the anointing is "stronger" on some people. There is no such thing as Holy Spirit jr. or Holy Spirit lite. He is the same, yesterday, today and forever and is no respector of persons. What flows through us is the same Holy Spirit, the same power, the same "anointing" as anyone else.

    According to your faith!

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    Yes. And another thing we get wrong is that the anointing is "stronger" on some people. There is no such thing as Holy Spirit jr. or Holy Spirit lite. He is the same, yesterday, today and forever and is no respector of persons. What flows through us is the same Holy Spirit, the same power, the same "anointing" as anyone else.

    According to your faith!
    This is getting confusing again. In Acts 6 people are selected or commended because they are full of the Holy Spirit, power and faith. Translating into signs and wonders being worked.

    Acts 6:3 Therefore, brethren, seek out from among you seven men of good reputation, full of the Holy Spirit and wisdom

    6:8 And Stephen, full of faith and power, did great wonders and signs among the people

    So I was wondering if that was what Patricia King was referring to when she claimed in her video that Todd Bentley at some point got a more powerful anointing than she had and then he reasoned that he wouldn't let her correct him any longer.

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