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    Quote Originally Posted by victoryword View Post
    I may have to be the odd-ball here but I do believe that God has given the parent a certain amount of authority over a child and it seems that in cases where deliverance involved a child it was the parent that sought the Lord for its deliverance. Examples:

    The man with the epileptic son - Mark 9:14-27

    The Canaanite woman's demoniac daughter - Matthew 15:21-28

    So I do not believe that those who say this are only using this as an excuse, especially if they have a record of success with casting out devils (and all success comes from God). Furthermore, I have not only heard this taught, not so only by faith preachers, but by some "deliverance" ministries that would not want to be associated with the faith movement.

    That being said, we must always be led by the Spirit of God in deliverance since it is by God's power, authority and direction that they are cast out and not by our own ability. That is true in all cases. If one is having difficulty getting a person delivered then they should always take time to ask God why rather than just saying, "this" or "that" is the reason.
    >> we must always be led by the Spirit of God

    Amen and yeah that!, I should have prefaced my comment with that. If you're not led you can end up like the Sceva brothers whether you have a permission slip or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    ...But all things being equal, that means the parent isn't objecting and interfering, nobody is going to sue us, the parent isn't around, etc, etc, etc, you don't need a parent's 'permission' to cast out a devil out of a child. I wasn't answering the question with all these caveats and qualifying comments in mind.
    I think main point was if a Christian was 'able' to cast a demon out of a minor without a parent or guardian's permission...hence the statement that they are lacking the spiritual authority to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krystian View Post
    I think main point was if a Christian was 'able' to cast a demon out of a minor without a parent or guardian's permission...
    YES. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by krystian View Post
    I think main point was if a Christian was 'able' to cast a demon out of a minor without a parent or guardian's permission...hence the statement that they are lacking the spiritual authority to do so.
    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    YES. :)
    LOL...oookay. Back to the OP...got scripture? Those claiming 'no' do cite the verses VW posted:

    Quote Originally Posted by victoryword View Post
    I may have to be the odd-ball here but I do believe that God has given the parent a certain amount of authority over a child and it seems that in cases where deliverance involved a child it was the parent that sought the Lord for its deliverance. Examples:

    The man with the epileptic son - Mark 9:14-27

    The Canaanite woman's demoniac daughter - Matthew 15:21-28

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    I think it can be a combo of what you and John both said. But all things being equal, that means the parent isn't objecting and interfering, nobody is going to sue us, the parent isn't around, etc, etc, etc, you don't need a parent's 'permission' to cast out a devil out of a child. I wasn't answering the question with all these caveats and qualifying comments in mind.

    You're not guaranteed protection from authorities, etc, just because it was God's will for it to be cast out. See Paul and Silas after they cast python out of the woman. Obeying God can get you in trouble legally. It's just a part of obeying God sometimes. We don't operate in fear and being afraid of the consequences when we obey God.
    Absolutely. Good point and excellent Scripture quotation that makes the point clear. There is no guarantee that we won't be persecuted. Nonetheless, I read Krystian's question as one coming from a "spiritual covering" standpoint and not a LEGAL standpoint, and that is what I was responding to. I did not consider the LEGAL (secular) aspect of it until reading FB's posts.

    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    I agree with what John said, "The greatest commandment is to love, that pretty much over rides all of the fine print. Who would let a child remain demon possessed? Certainly not Christ and we have the mind of Christ, His power is also available to us, if, we, only believe."
    In a slight dispute we could also say that God would not let anyone go to hell because of His love. We would both be right. BUt Jesus did say in Rev. 3:20 that He will stand at the door and knock. But the person must open the door before Jesus will come in and sup with him or her. In other words, Jesus will not violate the principle of free-will in order to force His will. Now whether this applies to a demon possessed child or not, I don't know. But if it is a principle of "spiritual covering" then would Jesus violate it?

    Not asking the question because I have the answer because I don't. The question is more from a discussion sake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    >> we must always be led by the Spirit of God

    Amen and yeah that!, I should have prefaced my comment with that. If you're not led you can end up like the Sceva brothers whether you have a permission slip or not.
    Yep. Those demons need no "parental consent" to beat you if you are not connected to Jesus
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    Quote Originally Posted by krystian View Post
    I think main point was if a Christian was 'able' to cast a demon out of a minor without a parent or guardian's permission...hence the statement that they are lacking the spiritual authority to do so.
    I understood your point from the get-go.

    BTW, I think you and I may have seen the same discussion on Facebook because as soon as I saw your thread it brought me back to an argument I saw on FB with some of our mutual friends yesterday
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    Quote Originally Posted by krystian View Post
    LOL...oookay. Back to the OP...got scripture? Those claiming 'no' do cite the verses VW posted:
    That really doesn't answer the original question. VW was just using that to show that parents sought it out in those two cases. What if Jesus had come across those in another circumstance without the parents around? Would He have cast them out? I say yes.

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    Here's one. The widow at Nain. Jesus had compassion on the mother and raised the kid from the dead. He didn't ask permission, he just did it due to his compassion.

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