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    Can you cast a demon out of a minor without parental permission?

    I never really thought about it until I saw someone make mention of it recently. It was said that a Christian doesn't have spiritual authority over someone else's child unless the parent gives them permission to cast it out.

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    I can't see that being the case.

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    I dont see it as a case of our authority over demons as much as it being in respect of parents. Wisdom is the case here, especially if the child is not with the parents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krystian View Post
    I never really thought about it until I saw someone make mention of it recently. It was said that a Christian doesn't have spiritual authority over someone else's child unless the parent gives them permission to cast it out.

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    Nah, that sounds more like an excuse for a less than faith filled preacher. You don't need a parental permission slip to drive out a devil.

    Spiritual legalism is powerless.

    I always hear these nonsense excuses from faith preachers who's faith couldn't move a marble, much less a mountain. They refer to and conflate "rules" as to why their own ministry is spiritually ineffective. The greatest commandment is to love, that pretty much over rides all of the fine print. Who would let a child remain demon possessed? Certainly not Christ and we have the mind of Christ, His power is also available to us, if, we, only believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    Nah, that sounds more like an excuse for a less than faith filled preacher. You don't need a parental permission slip to drive out a devil.

    Spiritual legalism is powerless.

    I always hear these nonsense excuses from faith preachers who's faith couldn't move a marble, much less a mountain. They refer to and conflate "rules" as to why their own ministry is spiritually ineffective. The greatest commandment is to love, that pretty much over rides all of the fine print. Who would let a child remain demon possessed? Certainly not Christ and we have the mind of Christ, His power is also available to us, if, we, only believe.
    That's what I meant to say.

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    I may have to be the odd-ball here but I do believe that God has given the parent a certain amount of authority over a child and it seems that in cases where deliverance involved a child it was the parent that sought the Lord for its deliverance. Examples:

    The man with the epileptic son - Mark 9:14-27

    The Canaanite woman's demoniac daughter - Matthew 15:21-28

    So I do not believe that those who say this are only using this as an excuse, especially if they have a record of success with casting out devils (and all success comes from God). Furthermore, I have not only heard this taught, not so only by faith preachers, but by some "deliverance" ministries that would not want to be associated with the faith movement.

    That being said, we must always be led by the Spirit of God in deliverance since it is by God's power, authority and direction that they are cast out and not by our own ability. That is true in all cases. If one is having difficulty getting a person delivered then they should always take time to ask God why rather than just saying, "this" or "that" is the reason.
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    "May I pray for your child, Jesus will perform a miracle with her" helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by victoryword View Post
    I may have to be the odd-ball here but I do believe that God has given the parent a certain amount of authority over a child and it seems that in cases where deliverance involved a child it was the parent that sought the Lord for its deliverance. Examples:

    The man with the epileptic son - Mark 9:14-27

    The Canaanite woman's demoniac daughter - Matthew 15:21-28

    So I do not believe that those who say this are only using this as an excuse, especially if they have a record of success with casting out devils (and all success comes from God). Furthermore, I have not only heard this taught, not so only by faith preachers, but by some "deliverance" ministries that would not want to be associated with the faith movement.

    That being said, we must always be led by the Spirit of God in deliverance since it is by God's power, authority and direction that they are cast out and not by our own ability. That is true in all cases. If one is having difficulty getting a person delivered then they should always take time to ask God why rather than just saying, "this" or "that" is the reason.
    You are not the odd one out on this. I believe parents need to know. One could find themselves in needless trouble legally. Few cases will be “spiritual 911”. Chances are the child has had that demon and will be able to wait until parent(s) are assured. Wisdom is critical here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireBrand View Post
    You are not the odd one out on this. I believe parents need to know. One could find themselves in needless trouble legally. Few cases will be “spiritual 911”. Chances are the child has had that demon and will be able to wait until parent(s) are assured. Wisdom is critical here.
    Heck, I never even considered the LEGAL aspect of this, but that is definitely a good point, especially in this era where "no good deed goes unpunished."
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    Quote Originally Posted by victoryword View Post
    Heck, I never even considered the LEGAL aspect of this, but that is definitely a good point, especially in this era where "no good deed goes unpunished."
    I think it can be a combo of what you and John both said. But all things being equal, that means the parent isn't objecting and interfering, nobody is going to sue us, the parent isn't around, etc, etc, etc, you don't need a parent's 'permission' to cast out a devil out of a child. I wasn't answering the question with all these caveats and qualifying comments in mind.

    You're not guaranteed protection from authorities, etc, just because it was God's will for it to be cast out. See Paul and Silas after they cast python out of the woman. Obeying God can get you in trouble legally. It's just a part of obeying God sometimes. We don't operate in fear and being afraid of the consequences when we obey God.

    I agree with what John said, "The greatest commandment is to love, that pretty much over rides all of the fine print. Who would let a child remain demon possessed? Certainly not Christ and we have the mind of Christ, His power is also available to us, if, we, only believe."

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