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    Electric Cars - Not so Green!

    When CO2 emissions linked to the production of batteries and the German energy mix - in which coal still plays an important role - are taken into consideration, electric vehicles emit 11% to 28% more than their diesel counterparts, according to the study, presented on Wednesday at the Ifo Institute in Munich.

    Mining and processing the lithium, cobalt and manganese used for batteries consume a great deal of energy. A Tesla Model 3 battery, for example, represents between 11 and 15 tonnes of CO2. Given a lifetime of 10 years and an annual travel distance of 15,000 kilometres, this translates into 73 to 98 grams of CO2 per kilometre, scientists Christoph Buchal, Hans-Dieter Karl and Hans-Werner Sinn noted in their study.
    http://brusselstimes.com/business/te...an-study-shows

    There is another little nasty problem with electric cars that never gets mentioned; there is no safe way to dispose of the batteries.

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    http://brusselstimes.com/business/te...an-study-shows

    There is another little nasty problem with electric cars that never gets mentioned; there is no safe way to dispose of the batteries.
    Battery tech has had great advances but will always be the weak link in safety, longevity, convenience in addition to what was stated above. Interesting article.

    We had a guy ride his electic cycle about 40mi to our church service yesterday. He said he parked it around back because he needed to plug it in because he needed it to have a full charge for his return trip. You cant just plug it in anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireBrand View Post
    Battery tech has had great advances but will always be the weak link in safety, longevity, convenience in addition to what was stated above. Interesting article.

    We had a guy ride his electic cycle about 40mi to our church service yesterday. He said he parked it around back because he needed to plug it in because he needed it to have a full charge for his return trip. You cant just plug it in anywhere.
    Batteries also have a tendency to catch fire

    Parked in the basement of a compound in the East China municipality, the vehicle erupted into a ball of fire about 8 pm and burned nearby cars, Xinmin Evening News reported on Monday.

    The car owner told the daily city newspaper that he was not in the car and that the car was not charged that night.

    "I left the Tesla only 30 minutes before it burst into fire. I could not imagine what would have happened if I was still in the car during the emergency," the owner was quoted as saying. He was not fully named.

    Firefighters were at first unable to enter the parking lot due to the pungent smoke, and could only pour water into the garage, the report said.

    The fire was finally put out after about 80 minutes, according to Xinmin.

    A surveillance video posted on Sina Weibo prompted users to express concerns about the safety of Tesla and new energy vehicles (NEVs) in China.

    Tesla responded via its official Weibo account on Monday morning that there were no casualties reported so far and they were cooperating with the authorities.

    Tesla has had other accidents involving alleged spontaneous combustion.
    http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1146980.shtml

    Fire departments don't know how to deal with battery fires, that's a yikes kind of situation as they just let them burn out.

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    Batteries also have a tendency to catch fire



    http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1146980.shtml

    Fire departments don't know how to deal with battery fires, that's a yikes kind of situation as they just let them burn out.
    Fumes, cant use water in some cases....yup, let it be a controlled burn practice.

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