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Originally Posted by
FireBrand
I dont either. We are not in the GREAT tribulation. Are you going Preterist on us?
Nope, not going preterist. However, I believe that Scripture shows that the great tribulation started in 70 A.D. and is still ongoing today.
We must deal with Jesus teaching about the abomination of desolation & the destruction of the temple being the greatest tribulation since the beginning of the creation and until the end of the age.
We know from historical accounts that both of these happened in 70 A.D. And then when you look at the impact of islam on the whole world, especially that ancient world of the Mediteranian where millions were killed because they would not accept allah as their god, and then the famines and economical impact of the muslims shutting down shipping, and the plagues which took place during those ages, how can we not consider that part of the great tribulation?
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I don't think that 33 thinks he is a preterist, but in fact he is.
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And couldn't the martyrs of Revelation 6 (5th seal) be the millions who were killed for not denying Christ as both the Romans and then the muslims murdered them?
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Originally Posted by
Nikos
I don't think that 33 thinks he is a preterist, but in fact he is.
Still waiting on a response about what Jesus taught as the greatest tribulation since the beginning of creation.
The church fathers were pre-millenial, post-tribulation too.
Don't lose sight of the fact that we are all waiting for Jesus to come for us. Some just think it will be before they have to go through some bad things.
I wonder what the 300 Christians in Sri Lanka thought last week?
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O.K. brother Nikos, the guy in your video (Doug) is teaching Matthew 24:31 as a separate event from the 2nd coming of Jesus.
However, he conveniently skips over verse 30 which says all the tribes of the earth will see Jesus coming on the clouds with power and great glory.
You can't have it both ways. Scripture clearly shows it as one event. There is no 3rd coming of Christ mentioned in scripture.
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Originally Posted by
Nikos
Oh, you're back!
You forgot to bring your scriptures with you though. Go find them and we can talk!
Oh yeah, by the way brother Nikos, the great tribulation started nearly 2000 years ago according to Jesus.
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Originally Posted by
Nikos
This is my final answer!
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Originally Posted by
Nikos
This is my final answer!
But where is the scripture that says this? Is it in the book of Nikos?
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Ezek does nothing but spew out Dr. Brown's views. He is a preterist and not very good at prophecy. I am outta here.
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