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    OSAS

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    Don't want to nit pick but an important distinction

    Believers don't 'lose' their salvation - they leave which makes it serious.

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    There seems to be several definitions of the word "lose."

    lose verb
    \ ˈlüz \
    lost\ ˈlȯst \; losing\ ˈlü-​ziŋ \
    Definition of lose
    transitive verb

    1a : to bring to destruction —used chiefly in passive construction
    the ship was lost on the reef
    b : DAMN
    if he shall gain the whole world and lose his own soul
    — Matthew 16:26 (King James Version)
    2 : to miss from one's possession or from a customary or supposed place
    lost his glove
    3 : to suffer deprivation of : part with especially in an unforeseen or accidental manner
    lost his leg in an auto accident
    4a : to suffer loss through the death or removal of or final separation from (a person)
    lost a son in the war
    b : to fail to keep control of orallegiance (see ALLEGIANCE sense 2) of
    lose votes
    lost his temper
    5a : to fail to use : let slip by : WASTE
    no time to lose
    b(1) : to fail to win, gain, or obtain
    lose a prize
    lose a contest
    (2) : to undergo defeat in
    lost every battle
    c : to fail to catch with the senses or the mind
    lost what she said
    6 : to cause the loss of
    7 : to fail to keep, sustain, or maintain
    lost my balance
    8a : to cause to miss one's way or bearings
    lost himself in the maze of streets
    b : to make (oneself) withdrawn from immediate reality
    lost herself in daydreaming
    9a : to wander or go astray from
    lost his way
    b : to draw away from : OUTSTRIP
    lost his pursuers
    10 : to fail to keep in sight or in mind
    lost the thief in the crowded street
    11 : to free oneself from : get rid of
    dieting to lose weight
    12 slang : REGURGITATE, VOMIT —often used in such phrases as lose one's lunch
    intransitive verb

    1 : to undergo deprivation of something of value
    investors lost heavily
    2 : to undergo defeat
    lose with good grace
    3 of a timepiece : to run slow
    lose ground
    : to suffer loss or disadvantage : fail to advance or improve
    lose it
    1 : to fail to maintain a hold on reality
    also : to go crazy
    2 : to become overwhelmed with strong emotion : lose one's composure
    so angry I almost lost it
    lose one's heart
    : to fall in love

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/lose

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    Here are the Greek words (Vine's)...


    Lose, Loss, Lost

    1. apollumi (G622) signifies (I) In the active voice, (a) "to destroy, destroy utterly, kill," e.g., Mat_10:28; Mar_1:24; Mar_9:22; (b) "to lose utterly," e.g., Mat_10:42, of "losing" a reward; Luk_15:4 (1st part), of "losing" a sheep; Luk_9:25, of "losing" oneself (of the "loss" of well-being hereafter); metaphorically, Joh_6:39, of failing to save; Joh_18:9, of Christ's not "losing" His own; (II), in the middle voice (a) "to perish," of things, e.g., Joh_6:12 "(that nothing) be lost"; of persons, e.g., Mat_8:25, "we perish;" of the "loss" of eternal life, usually (always in the RV) translated to perish, Joh_3:16; Joh_17:12, KJV, "is lost," RV, "perished"; 2Co_4:3, "are perishing," KJV, "are lost" (see PERISH); (b) "to be lost," e.g., Luk_15:4 (2nd part), "which is lost"; metaphorically, from the relation between shepherd and flock, of spiritual destitution and alienation from God, Mat_10:6, "(the) lost (sheep)" of the house of Israel; Luk_19:10 (the perfect tense translated "lost" is here intransitive). See DESTROY.

    Total KJV Occurrences: 10


    2. zemioo (G2210), "to damage" (akin to zemia, "damage," e.g., Act_27:10, Act_27:21), is used in the NT, in the passive voice, signifying "to suffer loss, forfeit, lose," Mat_16:26; Mar_8:36, of losing one's soul or life; Luk_9:25, RV, "forfeit (his own self)," KJV, "be cast away" (for the preceding verb see No. 1); 1Co_3:15, "he shall suffer loss," i.e., at the Judgment-Seat of Christ (see 1Co_3:13 with 2Co_5:10); 2Co_7:9, "(that) ye might suffer loss," RV (KJV, "might receive damage"); though the apostle did regret the necessity of making them sorry by his letter, he rejoiced that they were made sorry after a godly sort, and that they thus suffered no spiritual loss, which they would have done had their sorrow been otherwise than after a godly manner; in Phi_3:8, "I suffered the loss (of all things)," RV, i.e., of all things which he formerly counted gain (especially those in verses Phi_3:5 and Phi_3:6, to which the article before "all things" points). See CAST, FORFEIT.

    Total KJV Occurrences: 92




    This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity (futility) of their mind, having the understanding darkened...
    (Ephesians 4:17-18)

    Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly...
    (Psalm 1)

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    God - What happened to the gift of salvation I gave you
    Believer - I lost it
    God - Where did you lose it
    Believer - At the pub while I was getting drunk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    God - What happened to the gift of salvation I gave you
    Believer - I lost it
    God - Where did you lose it
    Believer - At the pub while I was getting drunk
    Scripture and verse please

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikos View Post
    Scripture and verse please
    Hezekiah 15:9

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    Hezekiah 15:9

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    Hezekiah 15:9
    Typical OSAS answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikos View Post
    Typical OSAS answer.
    Welcome to the club, TT.

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