Originally Posted by
Cardinal TT
Did Jesus go to hell immediately at death?
@@@Yes, he immediately went to Hades.
How long was he there?
@@@Until he resurrected.
How exactly did he suffer God's wrath in his soul in hell?
@@@Because God still saw sin when he saw Jesus and His holy wrath was there.
What was the relevance of suffering God's wrath in his soul as far as our atonement and why didn't Jesus make it part of the communion celebration/remembrance?
@@@There's no mention of God's wrath in the communion but his soul being poured out unto death is. According to Jewish thinking the soul is in the blood so when his blood was shed unto death then his soul was shed unto death.
Can you exegete the below verses from the Messianic passage in Isaiah which clearly links the 'suffering of his soul' to his earthly suffering
Why isn't his soul suffering in hell under God's wrath mentioned in this passage?
@@@God's wrath which is different to being overwhelmed by death isn't mentioned in the passage. His soul being poured out unto death is mentioned.
All 3 verses below link his terrible soul suffering as part of the 'wrath of God' while still on earth
@@@God's wrath expresses itself directly, it doesn't express itself through one of the devil's devices. Zephaniah 1 talks about God's wrath over sin, it's direct and not indirect. Holy fire, not unholy fire. God's wrath is not an intrinsic part of Hades, for every human being it is a part of the future judgment - Romans 2:5
Isa 53:10 - Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise Him; He has put Him to grief. When You make His soul an offering for sin, He shall see His seed, He shall prolong His days, And the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in His hand.
Isa 53:11 - He shall see the labor of His soul, and be satisfied. By His knowledge My righteous Servant shall justify many, For He shall bear their iniquities.
Isa 53:12 - Therefore I will divide Him a portion with the great, And He shall divide the spoil with the strong, Because He poured out His soul unto death, And He was numbered with the transgressors, And He bore the sin of many, And made intercession for the transgressors.
@@@His soul being poured out unto death is mentioned in the passage and that started on the cross, arguably already in the garden of Gethsemane. The passage says nothing about when it ended. It says nothing about it ending at the moment of Jesus' death. Other passages state clearly that it continued until he was resurrected. Acts 2:24 mentions birth pangs and birth pangs are extremely painful without pain medication. Painful enough that they are a major concern in Genesis :
Gen 3:16 To the woman He said: “I will greatly multiply your sorrow and your conception; In pain you shall bring forth children; Your desire shall be for your husband, And he shall rule over you.”
I suggest you go ahead and prove from scripture that Jesus' soul being poured out unto death ended when he actually died. That is completely counter intuitive, one would think that it came into final fruitition when he actually died, that that was what his soul was poured out unto.