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Originally Posted by
Colonel
Dr. Michael Brown on the prosperity gospel. He talks about private jets from about 52 minutes. He has rebuked Creflo Dollar publicly for his private jetting but he also says that for some ministries having a private jet can "make business sense", especially when they share it with other ministries.
I would encourage anyone to watch the whole video before they comment, which I did.
Although I may disagree with him on some points, and it's just a few, and I may say a few things a different way, it's actually a very balanced assessment, and he qualifies what he's saying throughout. It's far from a critical/bashing video and he is sincere in attempting to be fair with what he says. Say unlike if it was a HH video. Lot's of "if they're really saying this, it's heretical, but if they mean this, then I agree with that. And we can't judge their heart. Only God knows." So he balances it and qualifies every thing he says very well.
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Originally Posted by
fuego
BAP mentioned the floating axe head in the Bible. Can you imagine if that wasn't in the Bible and Copeland said that happened to him? Wheezer might blow a gasket.
My point being some of the 'ridiculous' sounding stuff isn't so 'ridiculous' when you actually look at what happened in the Bible.
Yeah, like a virgin giving birth to a baby.
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Originally Posted by
Smitty
Nothing wrong with a preacher owning a jet as long as it is intended for ministry purposes, preaching the gospel, and helping to meet the needs of the poor in third world nations.
Hmmm? So if he or she is wealthy enough to own a "private" jet to take family vacations or just travel from one place to another, that would be wrong?
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Valiant Woman
Hmmm? So if he or she is wealthy enough to own a “private” jet to take family vacations or just travel from one place to another, that would be wrong?
No! Bill Gates and Warren Buffet have private jets and can use them for any purpose they want. They bought the plane with their own money.
The difference with a ministry jet is that the plane was purchased from a 501c3 non-profit corporation with tax deductible donations given by ministry partners and/or church members.
There are IRS rules, guidelines, and regulations that governs the ministry founders that they must abide by under the 501c3 banner to what is permissible when operating the ministry aircraft.
If the ministry founders paid for their own private jet with their own personal funds, they are free from such government restrictions and may use their personal aircraft any way they please. Just as Bill Gates and Warren Buffet do when they fly to different locations for vacation and pleasure seeking.
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Originally Posted by
fuego
I would encourage anyone to watch the whole video before they comment, which I did.
Although I may disagree with him on some points, and it's just a few, and I may say a few things a different way, it's actually a very balanced assessment, and he qualifies what he's saying throughout. It's far from a critical/bashing video and he is sincere in attempting to be fair with what he says. Say unlike if it was a HH video. Lot's of "if they're really saying this, it's heretical, but if they mean this, then I agree with that. And we can't judge their heart. Only God knows." So he balances it and qualifies every thing he says very well.
Yeah, it's not just another entry in a trench war between jaysayers and naysayers like things have been around here a lot of the time.
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Originally Posted by
Colonel
Yeah, it's not just another entry in a trench war between jaysayers and naysayers like things have been around here a lot of the time.
Exactly.
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Here's his follow up video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_AC8RO0Iq8
A little shameless self promotion here. At the 7 minute mark he plays a clip from one of my videos on Justin Peters. I called in at 45 minutes in, not realizing that he had played the clip because I joined the call late. At any rate, I followed up with an email and it looks like I'm going to get to do an interview with him.
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Sorry. I guess I don't know how to insert a YouTube video.
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Originally Posted by
Colonel
And no more c-paps etc for those that believe in praying for healing.
That would be fine with me. I've been on a c-pap for four years now. In order to retain my CDL to drive a truck, I have to submit a annul printed read out of my c-pap use at my yearly DOT physical. in order to avoid doing this so I can continue to drive, I would have to go spend the night at the clinic, hooked up to a bunch of wires, and endure the dreaded sleep test. If God healed me from sleep apnea, I would need a letter from the doctor declaring I'm cured of the sleep disorder and bring it in next June 1st to the DOT physical physician. I retire in two years and don't have the time or patience to go through all that sleep testing again. The only reason I'm not trusting God for my healing (yet in all reality I really am) is because I'm in a legal bind to keep my CDL trucking license with mandatory documentation I've got to submit on a yearly basis. Once these annul DOT physical's are over (two more to go) I'm going to hang up my mask, put my c-pap machine in the closet, and believe God for my healing from sleep apnea (which I have). As a matter of fact, it will be when I'm through driving a commercial vehicle that I will go through that dreaded sleep test to affirm that God has healed me from sleep apnea.
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