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You all may not realize it, but he is growing in popularity again. At least in certain communities. I even heard buzz that a lot of people are pushing for him to re-start the Azusa conference. He spoke at Walter Hawkins funeral in Oakland in 2011 and then recently at Edwin Hawkins funeral a few months ago ( I was there). They absolutely love him in the Bay Area. I'm surprised he didn't end up pastoring here. I also went to Veron Ashe's funeral in San Francisco and he and Noel Jones were the main speakers. Very strange vibe.
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When he was holding his newborn daughter (this was around 1996), watching the news and seeing the starving and devastation in Africa, he claimed he heard a voice ask, 'are all these people going to hell?" .
I have heard the same voice and it caused me to doubt God's goodness......the voice is the devil
Satan is the master of deception
We don't understand eternal hell in this life but we either TRUST God or we start to believe lies
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We watched the movie tonight and IMO it was well done. I believe they kept true to Pearson's story, and the acting was very good. Though it was sad to watch, it clarified some things, and what we discussed earlier as to why or how did he get off track was explained in the movie. We couldn't help feeling sad for Pearson throughout.
We know Netflix is a liberal organization and this film was made to spread the doctrine of inclusion. However, there are some powerful scenes, particularly with Pearson's an Oral Roberts' characters. I strongly suspect the producers/directors/writers didn't mean for some of the solid Biblical doctrine in a few of the scenes to be included.
There's a scene in a restaurant where Roberts tells Pearson who that voice belongs to that spoke to Pearson. It's poignant, and you're thinking, ok, he should get it, but sadly, he doesn't.
I know some of you have canceled your Netflix subscription, but if you can watch this film some where else, you'll see what I mean concerning the subtle messages injected in the film about the truth of scriptures.
I truly believe the Holy Spirit cause that dialogue to be included in this film.
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Originally Posted by
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You all may not realize it, but he is growing in popularity again. At least in certain communities. I even heard buzz that a lot of people are pushing for him to re-start the Azusa conference. He spoke at Walter Hawkins funeral in Oakland in 2011 and then recently at Edwin Hawkins funeral a few months ago ( I was there). They absolutely love him in the Bay Area. I'm surprised he didn't end up pastoring here. I also went to Veron Ashe's funeral in San Francisco and he and Noel Jones were the main speakers. Very strange vibe.
Who he gonna get for the "new Azusa"? Yvette Flunder and more inclusion buddies? No thank ya.
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Just started watching.
Whew...it was a good movie. I gotta hand it to Chiwetel Ejiofor, he had Carlton's mannerisms down pat. A lot of what was said confirmed what I said in this thread, having just saw the trailer. Although it was a darker-skinned "Gina", the actress got the actual Gina's speech patterns and tone of speaking down pat too.
Yep, the Henry character and the Reggie character were based on actual people..I almost started bawling during the last scene with Carlton and 'Reggie'...that tugged my heart strings real hard.
I felt a mixture of sadness, uneasiness and nostalgia all at the same time.
Arelia--the restaurant where Oral and Carlton met looked like that IHOP at 71st and Lewis..
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It is a Netflix original....My decision to not access Netflix, that is absolute. I believe it has been taken over by a strong political agenda...who reaps the financial benefits of this movie?
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Originally Posted by
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Whew...it was a good movie. I gotta hand it to Chiwetel Ejiofor, he had Carlton's mannerisms
down pat. A lot of what was said confirmed what I said in this thread, having just saw the trailer. Although it was a darker-skinned "Gina", the actress got the actual Gina's speech patterns and tone of speaking down pat too.
Yep, the Henry character and the Reggie character were based on actual people..I almost started bawling during the last scene with Carlton and 'Reggie'...that tugged my heart strings real hard.
I felt a mixture of sadness, uneasiness and nostalgia all at the same time.
Arelia--the restaurant where Oral and Carlton met looked like that IHOP at 71st and Lewis..
I can imagine the discomfort at several levels you might have experienced. If I might ask...did you feel any of this production was promoting the message and validation of being Inclusionist?
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I can imagine the discomfort at several levels you might have experienced. If I might ask...did you feel any of this production was promoting the message and validation of being Inclusionist?
TBH, I don't think so. This movie was based on interviews with Carlton and some of the former staff/associate ministers for a PBS radio show, "This American Life" https://www.thisamericanlife.org/304/heretics from 2005. I think it was moreso showing Carlton's personal struggle. I didn't get the sense that there was an agenda by Netflix/the creators of the movie. What I do think is that Carlton is using this movie to gain more attention to himself, and like Pente said maybe trying to test the waters for a "comeback" by way of Azusa or whatever..
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It is a Netflix original....My decision to not access Netflix, that is absolute. I believe it has been taken over by a strong political agenda...who reaps the financial benefits of this movie?
Not so much financial benefits, but maybe personal validation for Carlton. Of course there will be money made for Netflix--maybe a some people, like Arelia, signed up for it just to watch the movie, and then cancel the service. Just a feeling/opinion on my part, many of the pro-Carlton/inclusion folks already were subscribers with those (like myself) have the service to watch certain shows I like. I originally thought the movie was going to be in theaters and I wasn't going to make an effort to go see it, I just happen to have Netflix as part of my cable package.
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