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Dear White (*and some Black*) Evangelicals
I will save some of ya'll from Googling John Pavolitz, here's his site: john pavlovitz - Stuff That Needs To Be Said
White Evangelicals, This is Why People Are Through With You
Yes he is white and liberal.
Dear White Evangelicals,
I need to tell you something: People have had it with you.
They're done.
They want nothing to do with you any longer, and here's why:
They see your hypocrisy, your inconsistency, your incredibly selective mercy, and your thinly veiled supremacy.
For eight years they watched you relentlessly demonize a black President; a man faithfully married for 26 years; a doting father and husband without a hint of moral scandal or the slightest whiff of infidelity.
They watched you deny his personal faith convictions, argue his birthplace, and assail his character—all without cause or evidence. They saw you brandish Scriptures to malign him and use the laziest of racial stereotypes in criticizing him.
And through it all, White Evangelicals—you never once suggested that God placed him where he was,
you never publicly offered prayers for him and his family,
you never welcomed him to your Christian Universities,
you never gave him the benefit of the doubt in any instance,
you never spoke of offering him forgiveness or mercy,
your evangelists never publicly thanked God for his leadership,
your pastors never took to the pulpit to offer solidarity with him,
you never made any effort to affirm his humanity or show the love of Jesus to him in any quantifiable measure.
You violently opposed him at every single turn—without offering a single ounce of the grace you claim as the heart of your faith tradition. You jettisoned Jesus as you dispensed damnation on him.
And yet you give carte blanche to a white Republican man so riddled with depravity, so littered with extramarital affairs, so unapologetically vile, with such a vast resume of moral filth—that the mind boggles.
And the change in you is unmistakable. It has been an astonishing conversion to behold: a being born again.
With him, you suddenly find religion.
With him, you're now willing to offer full absolution.
With him, all is forgiven without repentance or admission.
With him you're suddenly able to see some invisible, deeply buried heart.
With him, sin has become unimportant, compassion no longer a requirement.
With him, you see only Providence.
And White Evangelicals, all those people who have had it with you—they see it all clearly.
They recognize the toxic source of your inconsistency.
They see that pigmentation and party are your sole deities.
They see that you aren't interested in perpetuating the love of God or emulating the heart of Jesus.
They see that you aren't burdened to love the least, or to be agents of compassion, or to care for your Muslim, gay, African, female, or poor neighbors as yourself.
They see that all you're really interested in doing, is making a God in your own ivory image and demanding that the world bow down to it.
They recognize this all about white, Republican Jesus—not dark-skinned Jesus of Nazareth.
And I know you don't realize it, but you're digging your own grave in these days; the grave of your very faith tradition.
Your willingness to align yourself with cruelty is a costly marriage. Yes, you've gained a Supreme Court seat, a few months with the Presidency as a mouthpiece, and the cheap high of temporary power—but you've lost a whole lot more.
You've lost an audience with millions of wise, decent, good-hearted, faithful people with eyes to see this ugliness.
You've lost any moral high ground or spiritual authority with a generation.
You've lost any semblance of Christlikeness.
You've lost the plot.
And most of all you've lost your soul.
I know it's likely you'll dismiss these words. The fact that you've even made your bed with such malevolence, shows how far gone you are and how insulated you are from the reality in front of you.
But I had to at least try to reach you. It's what Jesus would do.
Maybe you need to read what he said again—if he still matters to you
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I have come across him in the past and leaving out politics - he is a nasty hateful man as well as totally deceived. True Christians should stay away from him.
I knew 2 pastors down under who were very powerful and now are deluded - the wife who has embraced same sex marriage likes John Pavlovitz and now publicly spreads deception(no surprises she likes Pavlovitz). The same deluded spirit in him now has hold of her
Republicans have many faults and they need to be corrected but demonic deception is more prevalent on those on the left
It is the left that will lead the way to worship of the antichrist
The antichrist will at first sound 'good' like John Pavlovitz
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Just another God-hater. Nothing to see here.
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Originally Posted by
fuego
Just another God-hater. Nothing to see here.
I report, you decide. To quote Lizzo, "Truth Hurts"
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Originally Posted by
Cardinal TT
I have come across him in the past and leaving out politics - he is a nasty hateful man as well as totally deceived. True Christians should stay away from him.
I knew 2 pastors down under who were very powerful and now are deluded - the wife who has embraced same sex marriage likes John Pavlovitz and now publicly spreads deception(no surprises she likes Pavlovitz). The same deluded spirit in him now has hold of her
Republicans have many faults and they need to be corrected but demonic deception is more prevalent on those on the left
It is the left that will lead the way to worship of the antichrist
The antichrist will at first sound 'good' like John Pavlovitz
Trump has some kind of demon if he continues to not allow a peaceful transition, in terms of freeing up the resources the new admin will need Democrats could sue GSA if transition standoff continues - POLITICO
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Originally Posted by
FaithfulOne
I report, you decide. To quote Lizzo, "Truth Hurts"
You report, and I tell it like it is. :)
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Originally Posted by
FaithfulOne
Everyone potentially can have a demon if they allow it. Many Republicans have demons behind them even some of the christian leaders who support Trump are in error.
I am on the fence. If Trump lost genuinely he should leave without all this fuss.
Is it also possible that major corruption has taken in place in voting - Trump staying in can be a good thing to expose it
I don't want Trump to be president if he has genuinely lost the election and hopefully all his advisors will concede but there is grounds for concern over voting corruption
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Originally Posted by
fuego
You report, and I tell it like it is. :)
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Originally Posted by
FaithfulOne
I report, you decide. To quote Lizzo, "Truth Hurts"
His personal faith convictions ? I do recall the controversy involving his black supremacy pastor, that was pretty crazy. He had to disavow him during the 2008 election. Even Hillary Clinton was firing at him with that.
I don't just recall it by the way. I recently searched out the news articles that were written about it at that time.
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In this century there is an endless flood of information and the media and various people create all kinds of narratives to try and harness the flood. Many of the narratives are in extreme conflict. The narrative presented in the OP in this thread is a good example of that in relation to conservative narratives presented on this forum. There is only one narrative that represents truth in a non-speculative manner. The Word of God. Without the aid of add-ons and conspiracy theories.
Back to the Bible.
It works. I've seen too many miracles happen to have any reason to ever doubt that.
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