View Poll Results: How will you be voting?

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  • In person at my usual polling place

    6 60.00%
  • Mail in voting, trusting USPS

    2 20.00%
  • Mail in voting, direct to city election clerk's office

    1 10.00%
  • Absentee voting

    1 10.00%
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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by FunFromOz View Post
    P.S. Plus voting is compulsory.
    Interesting. In my view that's a good idea. But I don't think
    the USA would ever go for it. Too many who themselves don't
    want to vote and too many who don't want the masses to vote.

    Can you write in a candidate of your choice if you don't like the
    ones on the ballot?

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Nikos View Post
    Sounds like Calvinism. No choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FunFromOz View Post
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    P.S. Plus voting is compulsory.
    How do they enforce that? What is the penalty for not voting?

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by njtom View Post
    Can you write in a candidate of your choice if you don't like the ones on the ballot?
    You "can" but in all likely hood it would make the vote informal and so it wouldn't be counted. So English wise you MAY NOT.

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  6. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    How do they enforce that? What is the penalty for not voting?
    When you reach 18 you can register to vote and you get put on the Electoral Roll. As we don't have "primaries for political parties" we just register with our name and address. It's maintained on a state bases but used for Federal, State and Local Council elections. If we change addresses I think we have 3 months to update our details.

    When we go to vote we say who we are (no proof required) and our name is crossed off before being given the ballot paper(s). We have to put them in the appropriate box(es) before leaving the polling station. If our name's not crossed of we get sent a $55 fine.

    Filling in the ballot paper is done in private so some people intentionally make it informal in protest or something (not that that helps).

    As soon as polling closes (at 6pm) the ballot boxes are emptied and counting begins. Scrutineers from a registered party can watch the counting (look but not touch) and challenge votes consider informal (but for some reason only if it would benefit their own party). Our voting is preferential so serious party hacks keep track of preferences even, and send the data back to the party rooms so the parties have a good idea of the results before they're officially published. At the end of the evening the counts are send back to the electoral commission (I have a graveyard story about that but this is getting too long) where they're accumulated and periodically released to the media and public.

    Everything is formally recounted later for the official figures and it sometimes takes a few weeks for the election results to be "declared", but we usually know the general result on the night.

    One other (perhaps) interesting thing. The reality is getting elected cost money and few people are willing to support parties and candidates financially. So being evil the govt. made a law that gave themselves $x for each primary vote they get in an election. So if a scrutineer can get what seems an informal vote declared formal and for his party, it normally won't change the result, but it gets the party a $ so he gets brownie points.

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  8. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Nikos View Post
    Sounds like Calvinism. No choice.
    Rather than an "I'm pretending to be funny with my fake smile" emoji Nikos I think this is more appropriate.

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    And it's not because you hate Reformed Theology, (and the reality is you wouldn't be a Christian without it); and it's not because the ancestral theologies of your theology of salvation have been declared heresies in multiple places (i.e. in the Second Council of Orange (529 AD), the Council of Trent (17 June 1546) and in the Augsburg Confession (1530), French Confession (1559), the Belgic Confession (1561), the Second Helvetic Confession (1566), the Anglican Articles (1571), and by the Synod of Dort (1619)); but because after years of discussions on Reformed Theology by various people on this site (which you've claimed multiple times to understand but obviously don't) you still come up with, again and again it seems, the absolutely ridiculous statement you've made above, "Sounds like Calvinism. No choice".

    Do you want to know what Calvinism sounds like Nikos? "J. I. Packer has put like this: God saves sinners. That's the single point of Calvinism". (see following link)

    I've linked an article addressing this issue. One paragraph says:
    The real question behind my friend's question is about the nature of choice. Usually people who stumble over Calvinism or Reformed theology presume that in Calvinism there is no meaningful choice. If you're a Calvinist then you're a determinist. Your actions are determined by the sovereign choice of God. Everything is determined. . . . I think my friend was concerned because if a decision is not free, then it's determined, and if you're a Calvinist then you don't believe in freedom. This is what it amounts to.
    Perhaps it will enlighten you.

    Sovereign Grace & Free Choice

  9. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by FunFromOz View Post
    Rather than an "I'm pretending to be funny with my fake smile" emoji Nikos I think this is more appropriate.

    US elections: How will you vote-capture-jpg

    And it's not because you hate Reformed Theology, (and the reality is you wouldn't be a Christian without it); and it's not because the ancestral theologies of your theology of salvation have been declared heresies in multiple places (i.e. in the Second Council of Orange (529 AD), the Council of Trent (17 June 1546) and in the Augsburg Confession (1530), French Confession (1559), the Belgic Confession (1561), the Second Helvetic Confession (1566), the Anglican Articles (1571), and by the Synod of Dort (1619)); but because after years of discussions on Reformed Theology by various people on this site (which you've claimed multiple times to understand but obviously don't) you still come up with, again and again it seems, the absolutely ridiculous statement you've made above, "Sounds like Calvinism. No choice".

    Do you want to know what Calvinism sounds like Nikos? "J. I. Packer has put like this: God saves sinners. That's the single point of Calvinism". (see following link)

    I've linked an article addressing this issue. One paragraph says:


    Perhaps it will enlighten you.

    Sovereign Grace & Free Choice
    Although it does help to smile around here. Thick skin helps, too.

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  11. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikos View Post
    Sounds like Calvinism. No choice.
    Informed understanding of Reformed Theology
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  12. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by njtom View Post
    Can you write in a candidate of your choice if you don't like the ones on the ballot?
    Another thing that seems to be different is that for postal votes "The election manager must receive your completed ballot papers by 6pm on the Wednesday after election day". A video elsewhere here implied that in the USA they must be received by polling day.

    The occasional seat does go down to postal votes.

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  14. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by FunFromOz View Post
    Another thing that seems to be different is that for postal votes "The election manager must receive your completed ballot papers by 6pm on the Wednesday after election day". A video elsewhere here implied that in the USA they must be received by polling day.

    The occasional seat does go down to postal votes.
    The rules probably vary by state, but my understanding is that generally, as long as a mailed-in
    ballot is post-marked on or before election day, it will be counted even if it is received a limited
    number of days after election day.

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