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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezekiel 33 View Post
    In his usual style, Torben S√łndergaard guns hard until the very end where he explains that he himself fell down in God's presence once but it was okay because it had a transforming effect on him. It's difficult to know how literally one should interpret him sometimes, some of what they discuss seems to be directed at people within their movement who will understand it a certain way based on specific problems that they have encountered.

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    Kinda tough to be the manifestation police. God will vindicate His word, so if salvation, healing, joy, deliverance is being preached why question the manifestations, we should expect them. On the other hand if a service is along the lines of entertainment or another spirit you should just walk on out.

    Manifestations whether they are immediate or long term will always follow the Word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    Kinda tough to be the manifestation police. God will vindicate His word, so if salvation, healing, joy, deliverance is being preached why question the manifestations, we should expect them. On the other hand if a service is along the lines of entertainment or another spirit you should just walk on out.

    Manifestations whether they are immediate or long term will always follow the Word.
    The woman in the video made the point that in the Bible there were manifestations that were connected to demonic influence and manifestations that were connected to the influence of the Holy Spirit. Along that line of thinking the barking, screaming and continued uncontrollable shaking are in jeapordy.

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    Anybody know whatever happened to papabrett? He did start that, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post


    Anybody know whatever happened to papabrett? He did start that, right?
    That I remember it wasn't that long ago that he was here. According to the forum software he posted in 2016 and was here in 2018.

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    Anybody know whatever happened to papabrett? He did start that, right?
    He posts on FB every so often.

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    The woman in the video made the point that in the Bible there were manifestations that were connected to demonic influence and manifestations that were connected to the influence of the Holy Spirit. Along that line of thinking the barking, screaming and continued uncontrollable shaking are in jeapordy.
    Colonel you could miss a real big point here which has the potential to release fear and a drawing back from a real manifestation of the Spirit of God. Seasoned Pastors and Pentecostal pioneers always know by sensing or actually a manifestation of the discerning of spirits whether something is from God and if it's appropriate for the service it's being manifested in at the time. If the leaders are young and inexperienced it could be that the devil could slip something in from the evil realm or something of the flesh realm. Actually someone may be doing something entirely appropriate for their personal time with God that that should not be displayed for the body of believers to see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LionHeart View Post


    Colonel you could miss a real big point here which has the potential to release fear and a drawing back from a real manifestation of the Spirit of God. Seasoned Pastors and Pentecostal pioneers always know by sensing or actually a manifestation of the discerning of spirits whether something is from God and if it's appropriate for the service it's being manifested in at the time. If the leaders are young and inexperienced it could be that the devil could slip something in from the evil realm or something of the flesh realm. Actually someone may be doing something entirely appropriate for their personal time with God that that should not be displayed for the body of believers to see.
    It seems to me that a lot of stuff can be largely carnal (rather than demonic) and that the reason why it passes as something else is that there is a strong culture for accepting it as spiritual. The discernment typically doesn't go any further than the culture promotes.

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    It seems to me that a lot of stuff can be largely carnal (rather than demonic) and that the reason why it passes as something else is that there is a strong culture for accepting it as spiritual. The discernment typically doesn't go any further than the culture promotes.
    And what is the prescription for changing all of that ? A responsible leader who actively promotes the workings and operations of the Holy Spirit in his church while painstakingly sorting out the real from the false.He or she has been trained in the trenches knowing the Holy Spirit intimately and knowing how God moves. We have lost moves of God because they were not lead correctly and went into extremes which caused derision to come from inside the movement and then from outside the church.
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