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    At least she doesn't shake at all times when the Holy Spirit is supposedly upon her as some do that I've seen.

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    Vintage Kenneth E. Hagin 1997 campmeeting move of the Spirit.
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    Vintage Kenneth E. Hagin 1997 campmeeting move of the Spirit.
    That was just after Rodney Howard-Browne came through. When that happened they were all on the floor laughing in the Spirit. Those were good days. At the same time there were revivals running in Toronto, Brownsville, the U.K., Smithton and Redding. I'm believing God will eclipse this outpouring. Do it again, God!

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    Joy is a fruit of the Spirit, shaking and trembling isn't. But I can see how the spiritual might have an indirect effect on the soul and the body when people are touched by the Holy Spirit, making them fall down or tremble. I've prayed for people and they have been out cold for minutes or trembling and having a hard time to stand on their feet. In none of the cases did the person embrace the effect, they all tried to keep standing on their feet or quit trembling. When ministering, for instance physical healings, I've felt God's fire move or electricity like surges. Similar to what Wigglesworth and John G Lake described. But it has never had a physical effect on myself, as long as the Holy Spirit wasn't trying to affect me personally. The time when you need the most to behave collectedly is when God is ministering to someone through you rather than touching you. I think a lot of the physical effects are just soulish or carnal in nature. 20-30 years ago people in my church were falling over if they thought that the Holy Spirit might be touching them and there were catchers there to make sure that they didn't hurt themselves as they threw themselves to the floor. I've been to other churches where it was obvious to me that people were shaking in their own power and were trying to bring attention to themselves by doing that.

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    One of my favorite Rhema clips is Rhema musician and singer Marty Blackwelder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
    One of my favorite Rhema clips is Rhema musician and singer Marty Blackwelder.
    I don't know where I saw that video, but it was several months ago. I Youtubed Marty Blackwelder and he's still preaching and going strong. You can find current videos of him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    I don't know where I saw that video, but it was several months ago. I Youtubed Marty Blackwelder and he's still preaching and going strong. You can find current videos of him.
    Yes, I watched a video of Marty at Houston Faith Church on YouTube a couple of hours ago. He was preaching on joy. I was laughing in the Spirit. Anointing was still there as it was preached at that church in 2018.

    Here it is here: Over an hour long but well worth the watch if anyone has the time.
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    I don't know where I saw that video, but it was several months ago. I Youtubed Marty Blackwelder and he's still preaching and going strong. You can find current videos of him.
    I never did know who he was but I always wondered what became of him

    Glad he's still going strong!

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    This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity (futility) of their mind, having the understanding darkened...
    (Ephesians 4:17-18)

    Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly...
    (Psalm 1)

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    I can remember seeing people fall down when ministered to, even on the street, in Torben's own videos. And people with all kinds of emotional reactions to the Holy Spirit, including joy and crying. So that isn't the problem that TLR are describing.
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