Thread: Demonology

Originally Posted by Ezekiel 33

Another question I would have is how far down the bloodline of the nephilim would you have to breed before there was no longer any trace of that bloodline in a person?
And would it be possible to produce a spirit that is not of demonic origin within that bloodline?
It is for sure a mystery.

According to the above theory anyone could qualify as Nephilim, even today, and therefore be unredeemable, basically evil and on their way to becoming evil spirits roaming around among us once they die. That sounds very much like hereditary Calvinism and the core of the Serpent Seed doctrine - both of which are extremely alien to me apart from encountering such things on American discussion forums. How far do you want to take the whole thing in order to make it appear to work ?

Originally Posted by Ezekiel 33

I don't want to take it anywhere bro. Just surmising and thinking out loud. Like I said, it is a mystery. I am sure we will know the answer one day. It isn't even important to know where they come from, it is only important to know that they have to submit to the name of Jesus!

That's a pretty crazy theory. According to standard genetics, two non-Nephilim with some level of Nephilim genes could have children that qualify as Nephilim and since physical size is no longer an indicator, literally anyone could be a Nephilim. Even if you aren't (how do I know ?), your children could be.

Originally Posted by Ezekiel 33

Maybe that is why we must be born again of the Spirit??? Just throwing that out as an interesting conversation piece!

I sincerely believe that the Nephilim gene infiltration thing or "Serpent seed" when the Eden account is interpreted in light of it - is an usurper to the real problem that we all have irrespective of genetics, that we have all sinned and become sinners. The gene thing is a red herring, a total dead end. Maybe even a major distraction, to some.

Originally Posted by Ezekiel 33

The "serpent seed" doctrine is another false doctrine all together. It claims that Eve had sex with satan and that he is the father of Cain.

Yes but the core of it is that there are two breeds of human being, one that is of Satan and one that hails from Eve. Which is pretty similar to the "Nephilim genetics" theory and I have seen people connect Nephilim genetics to the Eden account and make the Nephilim and "the seed of the Serpent" one and the same, just that that seed is introduced only later with the angels of Genesis 6. This can be seen as a form of hereditary rather than elective Calvinism and Calvinism is very much an American pet doctrine and thought system these days.

To be fair, one of the main modern advocates of the "war on the Nephilim" theme, Michael Heiser, doesn't make "the seed of the serpent" in Genesis 3:15 equal to the Nephilim, rather he sees every enemy of God including the Nephilim as spiritual offspring of the Serpent or Satan. But other Nephilimists do connect them strongly.

If your neighbor qualifies as Nephilim by genetics, can he then be born again ? I thought the whole point to the Nephilim was that they were inherently evil and irredeemable and on their way to becoming evil spirits in afterlife, therefore they had to be exterminated. At least they were able to tell who was Nephilim and who was not back then, by their physical features.