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    Praying In The Holy Spirit

    Praying In The Holy Ghost...in Jude vs 20 scripture tells us to keep building ourselves up in our most holy faith and praying in the Holy Spirit:

    "But you, beloved, building yourselves up on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit..."

    What is your take on praying in the Spirit? Is this to pray in tongues? I'm not sure how to look at this any other way.

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    The following prophecy was delivered by Kenneth E. Hagin at the Winter Bible Seminar on February 20, 1997:

    "Speaking by the Spirit; not just speaking words out of your own mind or thinking, but speaking by the Spirit. Words that are inspired by the Spirit of God. Words that well up from within you, out of your spirit; given to you by the Holy Spirit. Those words spoken boldly bring forth great happenings. Speaking by the Spirit, and so the Glory of God shall come into manifestation. And some will see it like a cloud that hangs over the heads of the people. Others may not see anything but they sense the mighty move of His Spirit."

    "Speaking by His Spirit, yielding your tongue unto the Holy Ghost. But you see, taking time to pray in the Spirit. Taking time to pray in other tongues will get you tuned up; will edify you and get your tongue hooked up to your spirit so that when He who dwells in your spirit can give you utterance, then He takes over. And you speak out what He says, not what you think. Speak out what He wants. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. And so the Spirit of Seeing and the Spirit of Knowing into a greater manifestation shall come. But all of these. All nine of these manifestations, all of these worketh that one in the self-same Spirit. And at the same time, the inspirational gifts. Men, women, speaking by the Spirit. By prophecy -- inspired utterance. By tongues and interpretations; shall bring forth marvelous statements and bring to pass and bring into being in this sense realm where men can see and know the operation of the Spirit of God and the manifestation of the Spirit of God and the demonstration of the Spirit of God. So rejoice ye and be ye glad. (Ha, Ha, laughter) Hallelujah."







    This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity (futility) of their mind, having the understanding darkened...
    (Ephesians 4:17-18)

    Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly...
    (Psalm 1)

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireBrand View Post
    Praying In The Holy Ghost...in Jude vs 20 scripture tells us to keep building ourselves up in our most holy faith and praying in the Holy Spirit:

    "But you, beloved, building yourselves up on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit..."

    What is your take on praying in the Spirit? Is this to pray in tongues? I'm not sure how to look at this any other way.
    Yep. Especially when you link it to 1 Cor. 14 that when we pray in tongues that 'in the spirit' we speak mysteries.

    Which brings up something I have never heard really taught like this a few weeks ago in a video, and I think it was John Bevere that said it (he actually has some really good videos on the baptism in the Holy Spirit and speaking in tongues).

    Ephesians 6
    13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

    14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;

    15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

    16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

    17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

    18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;

    He pointed out that praying in the spirit/tongues was a part of our armor. I mean I've looked at that before and kinda thought that, but never heard anyone teach that all these years, although I'm sure he's not the only one that teaches that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    Yep. Especially when you link it to 1 Cor. 14 that when we pray in tongues that 'in the spirit' we speak mysteries.

    Which brings up something I have never heard really taught like this a few weeks ago in a video, and I think it was John Bevere that said it (he actually has some really good videos on the baptism in the Holy Spirit and speaking in tongues).

    Ephesians 6
    13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

    14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;

    15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

    16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

    17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

    18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;

    He pointed out that praying in the spirit/tongues was a part of our armor. I mean I've looked at that before and kinda thought that, but never heard anyone teach that all these years, although I'm sure he's not the only one that teaches that.
    I like that.

    Also, in Jude we see the context speaking of those without the Spirit. Then he says, “But you...” The rest of it all seems woefully redundant unless we are praying in/with the Spirit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireBrand View Post
    I like that.

    Also, in Jude we see the context speaking of those without the Spirit. Then he says, “But you...” The rest of it all seems woefully redundant unless we are praying in/with the Spirit.
    I absolutely believe that it is talking about praying in tongues, as it is your prayer language which is for personal edification.

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    I don't think praying in the Spirit MUST be tongues. I think that's a 20-21st century reading of it. When I pray in English OR in tongues, I believe it's praying in the Spirit. It's Spirit-initiated, Spirit-directed, even when in English. To think that great Christians of the past who were not Pentecostal never prayed in the Spirit (think Finney, Moody, Wesley, Spurgeon, etc.) is, again, a 20-21st century understanding of praying in the Spirit. Some of the greatest prayer warriors of the past were not Pentecostal. E.M. Bounds, Andrew Murray, Praying Hyde, Rees Howells, etc.

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    1 Cor 14:14 For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my understanding is unfruitful.

    Since the human spirit of a born again believer is one with the Holy Spirit, praying with one's spirit should equal praying in the Holy Spirit. They are in natural communion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    1 Cor 14:14 For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my understanding is unfruitful.

    Since the human spirit of a born again believer is one with the Holy Spirit, praying with one's spirit should equal praying in the Holy Spirit. They are in natural communion.
    And according to that verse one does not understand it. So praying in the spirit is NOT praying in your native tongue in the context of that verse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireBrand View Post
    I like that.

    Also, in Jude we see the context speaking of those without the Spirit. Then he says, "But you..." The rest of it all seems woefully redundant unless we are praying in/with the Spirit.

    Exactly.

    Check this out:

    Jude
    19 These be they who separate themselves, SENSUAL (ruled by the senses), having not the Spirit (as you said).

    20 BUT YOU beloved building yourselves up...

    Up where? Up above the sensual, up above being ruled by ones senses, up above being sense ruled.

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    Excellent observation, fuego. Praying in the Spirit is in contrast to praying with the understanding, therefore you aren't praying in your native language or any other learned language.

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