Thread: Rules governing the gift of rules

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Rules located in the writings of Paul and his contemporaries are Christ's rules.

● 1Cor 14:37 . . If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of The Lord.

● 1Ths 4:1-2 . .We beseech you, brethren, and exhort you by the Lord Jesus, that as ye have received of us how ye ought to walk and to please God, so ye would abound more and more. For ye know what commandments we gave you by the Lord Jesus.

People that oppose Christ's rules are not his friends.

● John 14:15 . . If you love me, you will comply with what I command.

● John 14:21 . .Whoever has my commands and obeys them, he is the one who loves me.

● John 14:23-24 . . If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching . . He who does not love me will not obey my teaching.

● John 15:14 . .You are my friends if you do as I wish.

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Originally Posted by Ezekiel 33

Oh, that's right. There is no "gift of rules" listed in the scriptures. Anyone infatuated so deeply with rules, rules and more rules usually is possessed by a religious spirit. The pharisees had lots of rules and Jesus rebuked them for it.

It took a while before I figured out that this isn't yet another Webers thread. I was going "uh huh".

Originally Posted by WebersHome

● John 15:14 . .You are my friends if you do as I wish.

1 Cor 14:5 I wish you all spoke with tongues

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Originally Posted by Colonel

1 Cor 14:5 I wish you all spoke with tongues

Paul's wishes often expressed his own personal longings rather than teaching Christ's rules. The above verse is just one example. There are quite a few more.

Rom 1:13
Rom 7:15-21
Rom 11:25
Rom 16:19
1Cor 7:7
1Cor 7:32
1Cor 10:1
1Cor 10:20
1Cor 11:3
1Cor 12:1
1Cor 14:19
1Cor 16:7
etc
etc
etc

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Originally Posted by WebersHome

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Paul's wishes often expressed his own personal longings rather than teaching Christ's rules. The above verse is just one example. There are quite a few more.

Rom 1:13
Rom 7:15-21
Rom 11:25
Rom 16:19
1Cor 7:7
1Cor 7:32
1Cor 10:1
1Cor 10:20
1Cor 11:3
1Cor 12:1
1Cor 14:19
1Cor 16:7
etc
etc
etc

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So you're saying that in this case Paul's wish is contrary to the wishes of Christ ?

Let's see how normative the ability to speak in tongues is according to the Bible :

1 Cor 14:23 Therefore if the whole church comes together in one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those who are uninformed or unbelievers, will they not say that you are out of your mind?

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Originally Posted by Colonel

So you're saying that in this case Paul's wish is contrary to the wishes of Christ ?

The Spirit's will, as per 1Cor 12:11, trumps Paul's will.

Originally Posted by Colonel

1 Cor 14:23 Therefore if the whole church comes together in one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those who are uninformed or unbelievers, will they not say that you are out of your mind?

That passage is hypothetical, and meant to accent 1Cor 12:12-30.

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Originally Posted by WebersHome

The Spirit's will, as per 1Cor 12:11, trumps Paul's will.

@@@But God is good, so much so that Paul cannot keep up with him. Trumping "all" is hard to do though.

That passage is hypothetical, and meant to accent 1Cor 12:12-30.

@@@Hypothetical perhaps but still recognizable to his audience. How many short of "all" have the ability to speak in tongues in your church ?

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