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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    I lean towards a pre-Adamic race who fell and became demons
    Well, there's a lot of stuff about it that makes sense to me too. And could explain these 'half-human' bones that are found that many think are evidence of evolution, etc. but actually belong to that race. And some of those bones look a lot like ape-type people and people who have seen demons describe some as looking like monkeys or apes, etc. Lots of things to speculate on there that could make sense.

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    As a young believer I had some yuk demonic experiences and didn't understand it at the time but God taught me some stuff
    I have seen demons that look like animals and also different size demons representing a hierarchy.
    In one experience a smaller demon I rebuked and defeated went and got a larger demon to attack me.
    This larger demon was about 6 foot and the smaller demon about 4 foot

    I have also seen fallen angels and they are different to demons and have authority over demons.

    One fallen angel appeared to me in a dream and they had demons under their authority - the fallen angel came towards me but the demons were behind it and were afraid of me.
    The fallen angel wasn't afraid but very angry with me and spoke to me but it could not get closer than about 7 feet as there was a Holy Spirit barrier between us


    Demons have different levels of power but fallen angels have much greater power

    I know it sounds crazy (please believe me I'm not crazy ) and in real life I rarely talk about this stuff unless I feel there is a teaching purpose

    I have always focused on Jesus and if these things occur then I have to deal with them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    As a young believer I had some yuk demonic experiences and didn't understand it at the time but God taught me some stuff
    I have seen demons that look like animals and also different size demons representing a hierarchy.
    In one experience a smaller demon I rebuked and defeated went and got a larger demon to attack me.
    This larger demon was about 6 foot and the smaller demon about 4 foot

    I have also seen fallen angels and they are different to demons and have authority over demons.

    One fallen angel appeared to me in a dream and they had demons under their authority - the fallen angel came towards me but the demons were behind it and were afraid of me.
    The fallen angel wasn't afraid but very angry with me and spoke to me but it could not get closer than about 7 feet as there was a Holy Spirit barrier between us


    Demons have different levels of power but fallen angels have much greater power

    I know it sounds crazy (please believe me I'm not crazy ) and in real life I rarely talk about this stuff unless I feel there is a teaching purpose

    I have always focused on Jesus and if these things occur then I have to deal with them
    Yeah, it makes no sense to me that fallen angels would be demons. They've never had a natural body, so why would they try to posses one? The giants make no sense either in that those were alive during this present earth. When they died their souls would have done the same as other persons' souls did, go to hell or paradise. The pre-Adamite thing is the only thing that logically makes sense to me. But ultimately it's all speculation for the most part. But Dake does offer what he considers scriptural proof with lots of scriptures and how he interprets them.

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    This is Hagin's 1st book of a 3 part series on demons. This is the one where he talks about pre-adamite, etc. Maybe GIMJ had a digital copy of this.

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    https://www.amazon.com/Origin-Operat...SRAQ15W8P5AWJ2

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    This is Hagin's 1st book of a 3 part series on demons. This is the one where he talks about pre-adamite, etc. Maybe GIMJ had a digital copy of this. ....


    Volume 1- The Origin and Operation of Demons - Kenneth E. Hagin.pdf








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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    As a young believer I had some yuk demonic experiences and didn't understand it at the time but God taught me some stuff
    I have seen demons that look like animals and also different size demons representing a hierarchy.
    In one experience a smaller demon I rebuked and defeated went and got a larger demon to attack me.
    This larger demon was about 6 foot and the smaller demon about 4 foot

    I have also seen fallen angels and they are different to demons and have authority over demons.

    One fallen angel appeared to me in a dream and they had demons under their authority - the fallen angel came towards me but the demons were behind it and were afraid of me.
    The fallen angel wasn't afraid but very angry with me and spoke to me but it could not get closer than about 7 feet as there was a Holy Spirit barrier between us


    Demons have different levels of power but fallen angels have much greater power

    I know it sounds crazy (please believe me I'm not crazy ) and in real life I rarely talk about this stuff unless I feel there is a teaching purpose

    I have always focused on Jesus and if these things occur then I have to deal with them
    I agree that angels are far more powerful than demons. The main reason why Lucifer is more powerful than the other fallen angels is that he is the leader, the one who seduced the others into becoming evil and thereby brought them in under his domain and authority. According to Rev 12, Satan brought down a third of the angels of heaven which means that there are twice as many angels that follow God. We don't know if most of those are stationed aorund the Earth but they counter the forces of evil, mainly the fallen angels that Satan brought here. There is nothing that suggests that any of them multiply so their number is fixed. How many angels are there ? We don't know.

    The math is interesting here. At the time of king Saul the world population was about 40 million. At the time of Jesus, about 200 million. By now, almost 8 billion. Are there enough angels to supply every human being with a designated guardian angel ? Probably not.

    What about the number of demons ? There is nothing that suggests that they multiply either. So there has to be fewer demons per human being now than there were for instance at the time of Jesus. The back-and-forth battle between light and darkness might be largely a matter of the clashes between God's angels and Satan's angels and both numbers are fixed. But when talking about human beings having demons attached to them then the number of demons in the world is fixed and also quite exhaustible. This holds irrespective of which origin theory for demons that one leans towards. Can the origin theory account for the number of demons that seems to be around today ? That depends on our perceptions concerning the number of demons that are attached to human beings at the moment. So I'm going to pose the following question, and I hope that all posters give it some thought and then reply :

    What percentage of human beings do you think currently has at least one demon attached to them ?

    My guess is about 10 percent, which I believe to be relatively conservative. Since some of them have more than one demon, that would bring the total number of demons attached to human beings to around 1 billion. Do the origin theories account for this number ? The "dead giants" theory certainly does not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    This is Hagin's 1st book of a 3 part series on demons. This is the one where he talks about pre-adamite, etc. Maybe GIMJ had a digital copy of this. ...
    Here is the first chapter of a excellent book by Kenneth E. Hagin...

    (This is new and updated and expanded from other books)

    He begins with possible origins of evil spirits in the first chapter of the book "The Triumphant Church - Dominion Over All The Powers of Darkness".

    As well as what the Bible has to say about satan.

    This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity (futility) of their mind, having the understanding darkened...
    (Ephesians 4:17-18)

    Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly...
    (Psalm 1)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GodismyJudge View Post
    Here is the first chapter of a excellent book by Kenneth E. Hagin...

    (This is new and updated and expanded from other books)

    He begins with possible origins of evil spirits in the first chapter of the book "The Triumphant Church - Dominion Over All The Powers of Darkness".

    As well as what the Bible has to say about satan.

    That is actually a great book all the way through. I used a lot of that for a class I taught at the Bible college many years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GodismyJudge View Post
    Here is the first chapter of a excellent book by Kenneth E. Hagin...

    (This is new and updated and expanded from other books)

    He begins with possible origins of evil spirits in the first chapter of the book "The Triumphant Church - Dominion Over All The Powers of Darkness".

    As well as what the Bible has to say about satan.

    Good teaching by Hagin about demons and the demonic real

    There are churches and Christians that don't believe these things happen, some have stopped believing in a literal devil

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