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Originally Posted by
Cardinal TT
Good scripture to see that Jesus heals and his mercy extends to all on earth but 9 were ungrateful and only 1 praised the Lord
What happened to the 9 - they lived a healthy life on earth but possibly none went to heaven
Yes, you can receive your healing and still end up in Hell. What torment THAT would be.
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I can't understand why it would be a mystery why people that received miracles and healing are in hell. Just because they received them doesn't mean they were saved. People do understand that you don't have to be born again for God to heal and deliver don't they? Nobody Jesus healed was born again.
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Originally Posted by
fuego
I can't understand why it would be a mystery why people that received miracles and healing are in hell. Just because they received them doesn't mean they were saved. People do understand that you don't have to be born again for God to heal and deliver don't they? Nobody Jesus healed was born again.
In the same manner, one can be unsaved and be healed.
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Originally Posted by
fuego
I can't understand why it would be a mystery why people that received miracles and healing are in hell. Just because they received them doesn't mean they were saved. People do understand that you don't have to be born again for God to heal and deliver don't they? Nobody Jesus healed was born again.
The key was the Phrase "They Received" as in they used their faith to receive all those things but yet he Never Knew Them ?
Note again that the issue is not that they ended up in hell . The mystery to
Me is that despite apparently execrising their faith to receive healing miracle and deliverance he never knew them ?
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Originally Posted by
FireBrand
In the same manner, one can be unsaved and be healed.
Thru a sovereign move of God Perhaps but not by exercising their faith and receiving by faith
Again the article very clearly states that they were at one time delivered but then turns around to say he never knew them .
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Acts 14:8-10 New King James Version (NKJV)
8 And in Lystra a certain man without strength in his feet was sitting, a cripple from his mother’s womb, who had never walked. 9 This man heard Paul speaking. Paul, observing him intently and
seeing that he had faith to be healed, 10 said with a loud voice, “Stand up straight on your feet!” And he leaped and walked.
Doesn't really say if this man got saved or not.
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Originally Posted by
BAP
Thru a sovereign move of God Perhaps but not by exercising their faith and receiving by faith
Again the article very clearly states that they were at one time delivered but then turns around to say he never knew them .
Do you believe that the unsaved can be healed?
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Originally Posted by
FireBrand
Do you believe that the unsaved can be healed?
Certainly . Even medical science which is of God provides healing to people who aren’t saved but the context here is different and the question here is different
I guess the premise here is that these people only received his as healer, miracle worker and deliverer but didn’t sufficiently embrace repentance and holiness hence he rejected and never knew them ?
If that be the case will those who embraced repentance and holiness but never engaged in Love and Grace and Healing and Deliverance also go to hell ?
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Originally Posted by
Ezekiel 33
Doesn't really say if this man got saved or not.
Exactly. Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God. I sinner could hear healing preached, and the man at Lystra could have not been saved when he was healed. A sinner can receive by faith just like a believe when they hear the Word and accept it, otherwise they couldn't be saved. The man at Lystra cold have been a sinner, heard the Word on healing and it created faith in him to be healed, yet never receive Jesus as his savior. I'm sure he probably did though, but he didn't have to.
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Originally Posted by
BAP
Thru a sovereign move of God Perhaps but not by exercising their faith and receiving by faith
Again the article very clearly states that they were at one time delivered but then turns around to say he never knew them .
Sure they can. They can hear the Word on healing and it activate their faith and be healed, but still never accept Jesus as their Savior.
'Delivered' doesn't necessarily mean saved. The demoniac with the legion of devils more than likely wasn't 'saved' when Jesus cast the devils out of him, delivered him. Doesn't mean he got saved in the sense of believe on Jesus.
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