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Hmmm?
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It's good that he eventually explains that he's including demon manifestations in his video and that his baptisms usually don't result in that. Otherwise it would be easy to get the impression that "everyone" manifests demons during his baptisms, which cannot be real. People have gone overboard with casting out demons before and people are quite capable of "manifesting" in the flesh if they feel that it is expected of them socially.
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It's good that he eventually explains that he's including demon manifestations in his video and that his baptisms usually don't result in that. Otherwise it would be easy to get the impression that "everyone" manifests demons during his baptisms, which cannot be real. People have gone overboard with casting out demons before and people are quite capable of "manifesting" in the flesh if they feel that it is expected of them socially.
Exactly. Acts 8:7 says "many", not "all". That has been our experience also. Many are set free, but everyone isn't possessed.
7 For unclean spirits, crying with a loud voice, came out of many who were possessed; and many who were paralyzed and lame were healed.
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Exactly. Acts 8:7 says "many", not "all". That has been our experience also. Many are set free, but everyone isn't possessed.
The Holy Spirit may also work on people in such a way that they react psychologically while it's going on. That may in turn be mistaken for a demon manifestation. Not just by someone watching a video, but by the people involved themselves. This is a danger for any movement, that they go overboard on demons. The result of doing that is that they lose credibility and there will be more persecution than there should have been.
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Originally Posted by
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Exactly. Acts 8:7 says "many", not "all". That has been our experience also. Many are set free, but everyone isn't possessed.
7 For unclean spirits, crying with a loud voice, came out of many who were possessed; and many who were paralyzed and lame were healed.
Well you can read that another way. Let me say this before I read it differently. If they were possessed, and Jesus ministered to them, the evil spirits came out. So you can't say they came out of 'many' of them but not all of them. Possession means they're in there. So if it was only 'many' of them the devil came out of and not all of them, then Jesus didn't deliver all of them. That isn't true, he did. They way you're reading it, it also implies that Jesus didn't heal all the paralyzed and lame people.
Now let's look at it different based on what I just said, because what I just said has to be true. What it could be saying is that there were many that were possessed there, and the ones that were possessed, the devils came out of them. There were also many paralyzed and lame. They all got healed. It's not saying that there were a lot of possessed people and sick people, and that 'many' not all of them were set free. That's how you seem to be reading it.
If I totally misunderstood what you were saying or trying to say there, never mind.
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Are you sure that everyone who was sick got healed in the book of Acts ? Jesus was in heaven, he didn't pray for anybody in person.
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Are you sure that everyone who was sick got healed in the book of Acts ? Jesus was in heaven, he didn't pray for anybody in person.
I wasn't thinking about it being Acts. I was thinking it was Jesus. So my bad. But in Acts 5 it says all were healed, and when we read Jesus accounts we always assume that they were all healed, unless it said they weren't like in Nazareth. So now that you've reminded me it is Acts, I could be more acceptive of them all not being delivered and healed, but at the same time it doesn't say they weren't, depending on how you read what was said which is what I was talking about.
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