Copeland's New Jet

[Smitty]

I really don't even get the objection in the first place.

God is El Shaddai, not El Cheapo.


Why should the Church be wholly dependent on the world for transportation in preaching the Gospel?

We are to redeem the time.

We should shine as lights, being blessed by God, holding forth the Word of Life in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation.



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Amen to that!

[Colonel]

I seriously doubt if Copeland's flight schedule is busier than Todd White's. He gets people saved, healed and delivered on planes all the time.

[GodismyJudge]

I seriously doubt if Copeland's flight schedule is busier than Todd White's. He gets people saved, healed and delivered on planes all the time.

And that is a very good thing, however...

John 21:20-22
(20) Then Peter, turning about, seeth the disciple whom Jesus loved following; which also leaned on his breast at supper, and said, Lord, which is he that betrayeth thee?
(21) Peter seeing him saith to Jesus, Lord, and what shall this man do?
(22) Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me.

[Valiant Woman]

Bro. Hagin (Jr.) Goes to several churches a month across the USA (back to back) for special 3 day services and also travels to churches on the foreign field (back to back) for special services. There would be no way He and his wife and ministry team could do this hopping from one airport to another. Another example is when bro. Lester Sumrall was alive, he purchased a large commercial jet to deliver life saving food and water to drought stricken areas in 3rd world countries.

I'm not sure why Rev. Dollar or bro. Copeland would require jets for their ministries. It's really none of my business. It's between them and God. Besides, if God blesses theses ministries with jets, it must be for a reason Colonel.

For the exact reasons the others you mentioned require them.

[Valiant Woman]

I really don't even get the objection in the first place.

God is El Shaddai, not El Cheapo.


Why should the Church be wholly dependent on the world for transportation in preaching the Gospel?

We are to redeem the time.

We should shine as lights, being blessed by God, holding forth the Word of Life in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation.



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Well put GIMJ.

[fuego]

Copeland's jet before this was a Cessna Citation X. I think they paid about 20 million for it. Mace Gober, a friend of the ministry who has now gone on to be with the Lord raised the funds personally from supporters. Every one knew exactly where their money was going, to buy that specific model of jet. If Copeland doesn't have the X any more and I can't see that he does, it's very possible that the money was raised in the same way, or the X was sold to fund this. According to the article this jet was only 3 million and they're going to put another few million in to update it.

Also, almost every Copeland supporter knows he is a pilot (and flew professionally before he ever became a minister) and they know when they give money that Copeland buys and maintains his jet with some of those donations. So nothing underhanded there.

Finally, any huge ministry has its corporation side. It is a corporation. And many corporations have jets. I'm a pilot myself. I'd rather have my own jet all day long than fly commercial. No security lines, searches, long waits, etc. This isn't any different. If I had a big ministry and had the funds to support it, I would buy one just like any other tool I would buy with ministry funds to help me spread the gospel. It's no different than any other tool.

And when we're talking about God, we're not dealing with limited resources. All things are by and for Him. All the jets belong to Him. May as well be one if his children using them. There's a lot more serious problems than worrying about a ministry having a jet. And like somebody else said, it's between them and God. If something is wrong God will deal with them in due time and in His way.

[Nikos]

I think they could go to a good used car lot and find a good Chevy/Ford to get them to their meetings. It would save a lot of money for evangelism.

[Nikos]

Put God first!

MORE MONEY FOR GOD'S WORK!

[Colonel]

Copeland's jet before this was a Cessna Citation X. I think they paid about 20 million for it. Mace Gober, a friend of the ministry who has now gone on to be with the Lord raised the funds personally from supporters. Every one knew exactly where their money was going, to buy that specific model of jet. If Copeland doesn't have the X any more and I can't see that he does, it's very possible that the money was raised in the same way, or the X was sold to fund this. According to the article this jet was only 3 million and they're going to put another few million in to update it.

Also, almost every Copeland supporter knows he is a pilot (and flew professionally before he ever became a minister) and they know when they give money that Copeland buys and maintains his jet with some of those donations. So nothing underhanded there.

Finally, any huge ministry has its corporation side. It is a corporation. And many corporations have jets. I'm a pilot myself. I'd rather have my own jet all day long than fly commercial. No security lines, searches, long waits, etc. This isn't any different. If I had a big ministry and had the funds to support it, I would buy one just like any other tool I would buy with ministry funds to help me spread the gospel. It's no different than any other tool.

And when we're talking about God, we're not dealing with limited resources. All things are by and for Him. All the jets belong to Him. May as well be one if his children using them. There's a lot more serious problems than worrying about a ministry having a jet. And like somebody else said, it's between them and God. If something is wrong God will deal with them in due time and in His way.

The fact that he has been a pilot since early on probably makes it easier for him to find supporters that are willing to pay for his having his own private jet.

[Smitty]

The fact that he has been a pilot since early on probably makes it easier for him to find supporters that are willing to pay for his having his own private jet.

At the same time, Ken Copeland is his own pilot saving the ministry between $90,000 and $100,000 annually.
The average annual salary of a corporate jet pilot is $92,028.

https://www.payscale.com/research/US...ate_Jet/Salary