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    So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed. John's Avatar
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    I suppose their reward is here on earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    Yeah, Mike Murdoch does it too. That's how a lot of this works for them and lots of preachers. They are the recipient of their own teaching. People naturally are drawn to give to the people that they hear it from. Generally speaking you won't see it work for the average Christian like it does them.
    According to the wikipedia article, Mike Murdoch raised money for the poor then almost none of it reached the poor.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Murdock

    On 3-3-2003, the Associated Press reported Murdock asked followers for money to help the poor but spent more than 60% of donations on overhead, including his salary, and only a tiny amount (reported to be "legal minimums of 1% to 3%") on helping the needy, or any other 'public interest'

    There is nothing correspondingly bad in the Munsey article.

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    sorry couldn't resist...

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    Mike Murdock is another one I avoid. He is on the ion channel late at night with Morris Ceurillo's (sp?) son. It looks like the same show repeats every night, but I suppose they are different.

    He came to a Charismatic fellowship we attended in the mid 70's, but I don't remember a thing about his message.

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    Some of these guys will end up in hell...they are thieves and full of coveteousness

    Its not going to be pretty

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    Some of these guys will end up in hell...they are thieves and full of coveteousness

    Its not going to be pretty
    I think some of them are conscious about being non-Christians who have found a way of getting rich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    I think it matters a whole lot whether they spend the money 100 percent on God's work like they suggest that they will be doing or if they spend the money 100 percent on their own lavish lifestyles. Inventing and promoting unbiblical doctrine is one thing, using that for pure greed is another dimension added to it.

    Avanzini used to be totally upfront about it, he told people to sow in his soil because he was rich, making him the recipient of the money rather than God's work. At least per default. That's a regular pyramid scheme.
    This is total nonsense Colonel.

    I have a good collection of Avanzini's material ... very balanced material .

    His Debt Free Army was a very helpful practical guide in my learning to avoid debt and in understanding Biblical Prosperity.

    Dont take one Isolated sound bite or teaching and use to discredit a good man

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    I did attend a meeting with him when he was here in Oslo in the early nineties. That wasn't long after he wrote some of his major books. He may have changed his tune somewhat since that time.

    I'm not saying that everything the man says is wrong.

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    Some of these people tell the listener to go borrow the money to send to them. That is stupidity. They live off the old and poor and uneducated and make empty promises like they are God Himself. They will have a lot to answer for when they meet their maker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikos View Post
    Some of these people tell the listener to go borrow the money to send to them...
    True biblical prosperity teachers would never tell anyone to borrow money for any reason.

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