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    Quote Originally Posted by wheeze View Post
    himself.... when he raises money 4 these faith based networks he gets a percentage of the take as does others who fleece the church...
    Source please.

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    I don't often watch Christian tv, however when I see Munsey I can't change the channel quick enough.

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    What does Munsey spend the money on ?
    Doesn't matter. The end doesn't justify the means. He's the worst at manipulating scripture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    Doesn't matter. The end doesn't justify the means. He's the worst at manipulating scripture.
    I think it matters a whole lot whether they spend the money 100 percent on God's work like they suggest that they will be doing or if they spend the money 100 percent on their own lavish lifestyles. Inventing and promoting unbiblical doctrine is one thing, using that for pure greed is another dimension added to it.

    Avanzini used to be totally upfront about it, he told people to sow in his soil because he was rich, making him the recipient of the money rather than God's work. At least per default. That's a regular pyramid scheme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    Source please.
    ur talking 2 it... i was n the Christian radio/tv industry... i ran n circles where i saw things go on 1st hand and had friends who had the same experiences. i could tell u of groups u would know who were n2 booze, drugs, and women. laying that aside it was common knowledge n my circles and still is that these so called men of god like munsey receive a certain percentage of the intake from these greed-a-thons. I could tell u lots of stories of my time at O.R.U. and the shenanigans that went on there with the board of regents (mostly televangelists many u'd know) and money. yeah colonel its the spiritual version of amway and guess who sits on top?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    I think it matters a whole lot whether they spend the money 100 percent on God's work like they suggest that they will be doing or if they spend the money 100 percent on their own lavish lifestyles. Inventing and promoting unbiblical doctrine is one thing, using that for pure greed is another dimension added to it.

    Avanzini used to be totally upfront about it, he told people to sow in his soil because he was rich, making him the recipient of the money rather than God's work. At least per default. That's a regular pyramid scheme.
    i was n a so called "dominion of the word" conference and he was key speaker. he was referred to as the "apostle of finance" by the host....

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    I don't know the names of these guys.. so I had to go look them up.

    I don't remember seeing Munsey.. but I did watch Mike Murdoch and I was not only stunned but outraged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheeze View Post
    ur talking 2 it... i was n the Christian radio/tv industry... i ran n circles where i saw things go on 1st hand and had friends who had the same experiences. i could tell u of groups u would know who were n2 booze, drugs, and women. laying that aside it was common knowledge n my circles and still is that these so called men of god like munsey receive a certain percentage of the intake from these greed-a-thons. I could tell u lots of stories of my time at O.R.U. and the shenanigans that went on there with the board of regents (mostly televangelists many u'd know) and money. yeah colonel its the spiritual version of amway and guess who sits on top?
    If it's a small percentage and the rest goes to God's work then it's a commission based job. Which could be vastly overpayed of course. Which in any case means the corresponding message is likely to be emotionally manipulative rather than anointed and scriptural.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Femme* View Post
    I don't know the names of these guys.. so I had to go look them up.

    I don't remember seeing Munsey.. but I did watch Mike Murdoch and I was not only stunned but outraged.
    i knew mike years ago when he hung around nancy harmon. she and my dad were good friends. he was n his 20's then. dont know what changed him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Femme* View Post
    I don't know the names of these guys.. so I had to go look them up.

    I don't remember seeing Munsey.. but I did watch Mike Murdoch and I was not only stunned but outraged.
    Yeah, Mike Murdoch does it too. That's how a lot of this works for them and lots of preachers. They are the recipient of their own teaching. People naturally are drawn to give to the people that they hear it from. Generally speaking you won't see it work for the average Christian like it does them.

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