Copeland lies about Pentecostal Revival ascribing it to catholicism

[John]

And as has already been posted ...

1 Corinthians 4:16
Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me.

1 Corinthians 11:1
Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ.

Galatians 4:12
Brethren, I beseech you, be as I am; for I am as ye are:

Philippians 3:17
Join together in following my example, brothers and sisters, and just as you have us as a model, keep your eyes on those who live as we do.

1 Thessalonians 1:6
And ye became followers of us, and of the Lord, having received the word in much affliction, with joy of the Holy Ghost.

2 Thessalonians 3:7...
For yourselves know how ye ought to follow us:

2 Thessalonians 3:9
Not because we have not power, but to make ourselves an ensample unto you to follow us.

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Classic proof texting.

Proof texting is the method by which a person appeals to a biblical text to prove or justify a theological position without regard for the context of the passage they are citing.

http://www.theopedia.com/proof-texting

[GodismyJudge]

Classic proof texting.

Proof texting is the method by which a person appeals to a biblical text to prove or justify a theological position without regard for the context of the passage they are citing.

http://www.theopedia.com/proof-texting

Not at all.

What exactly do you disagree with?

How does context effect the general principle that is witnessed to many times in Scripture?

Or change the main point?

I mean seriously, that's like saying taking all of the Scriptures concerning the power of the tongue together would be "proof-texting"

[Colonel]

Paul also refers to the recipients of his letters as his children. In Jewish thinking a child of someone was, when used in the broader sense, that someone's follower. When Jesus talked about people being children of the devil he didn't mean that the devil gave birth to them but rather that they were his followers, in the devil's likeness according to their deeds.

[Lista]

Just as a side bar...please stay focused on the subject at hand, and not the ones posting, or we will have to start deleting posts.

[John]

Not at all.

What exactly do you disagree with?

How does context effect the general principle that is witnessed to many times in Scripture?

Or change the main point?

I mean seriously, that's like saying taking all of the Scriptures concerning the power of the tongue together would be "proof-texting"

For you yourselves know how you ought to follow our example. We were not idle when we were with you, nor did we eat anyone’s food without paying for it.

The scriptures you posted do not speak to this false premise..

>> Actually, the Bible does speak about following men of faith!!!

There is a big difference between following an example and following a man.

Quite frankly, if you look closely at the context of the scriptures you posted, most of the men that you are advocating for are disqualifed. Those who feed primarily from the flock, etc.

[GodismyJudge]

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There is a big difference between following an example and following a man.

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Um, yeah that's pretty simple to understand.

[Colonel]

"Follow me as I follow Christ" doesn't mean to follow Hagin when he is preaching some strange theory that doesn't fit scripture. That was just an example. I agree totally with John that that type of scripture has been abused by people who decide to simply go along with whatever one or a handful of preachers teach because that makes life simpler. "Test everything, keep the good" is an other scripture that complements that one well.

[Nikos]

There is no need of following man when we can follow Jesus Himself.

And he saith unto them, Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men. Matt 4:19

Matt 16:24 Then Jesus told his disciples, “If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me.

[Laura Grace]

Did any of you watch this video? I have trouble finding too much fault with it. I was raised Lutheran so the fact that this young nun pressed for the HOLY SPIRIT To be invited in, or
that this other (clergy) decided to say yes "WE are Justified by Faith".......Nobody is saying Every Catholic is saved. Joining a church, copy catting their ways, rubbing elbows with the right
people (whether they are Catholic, Baptist, Pentecostal and so on) is not what makes people saved. It's personal relationship with Jesus Christ! I have met some "Charismatic" saved born
again people who still attend the Catholic church. I have been visiting a Methodist church lately because God led me there. (for a time). I am not a Methodist I am not a Baptist, I am not
"A Member" officially of any church. The Full Gospel businessmen's fellowship as awesome as it may be, does not preach THE WHOLE GOSPEL. I know because I've read the bible cover to
cover several times, and there is a ton of stuff that NEVER GETS PREACHED! At Christmas I was reading the declaration of Mary when she stayed with Elizabeth. the Prophetic words she
spoke! WOW .........Nobody preaches on that either, that i know of. So let's not get hung up on saying "They can't be saved because (They are catholic, or they smoke, or they drink, or on
and on it goes) .........Peter Himself had a vision from Heaven about this very thing (Unclean things!) .........God said don't say it's unclean if I say it's clean! And that's all I have to say
about that. WE must be careful in the pointing of fingers, we don't have three pointing back at ourselves. Discernment can get polluted. (It's a gift) and when not done in a Spirit of Love,
it becomes a device to make people stumble. Laura Grace, Author, speaker Preacher, servant of the Living God and Ambassador for him!

[Farm Truck]

You was once a big fan of Copland's ministry.

Yeah, the true Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ... corrected me, thank God

Now if only his detractors could do even a quarter as much for the Kingdom of God as Kenneth Copeland is doing at age 80

What would that be... spreading another jesus and a different gospel???

I recently learned that Kenneth Copeland Ministries financially supports the entire ministry of Rodney Howard-Browne

It's only fitting that one false teacher support another.

I'm so tired of so-called Christians putting down ministers and/or ministries they know nothing about, don't support, and don't pray for.

Ya know, ain't nobody cares what you're tied of... thanks for sharing though.

Need to be quiet and have several seats

You're just like those hillary people... you think anyone that disagrees with you should not be allowed to have any rights.

In the end we'll see who ends up where and who is following what God's Word teaches and who is following that which pleases men.