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Originally Posted by
victoryword
Getting back to the OP, I fully agree. Yesterday I heard a very well known minister and author of many books make a ridiculous statement. At first she was doing well in teaching on faith but then she said something to the effect, "People always asking why did this good person die and that bad person is allowed to live a long life? ....God loves mysteries."
Huh? What a stupid answer.
Being a she must have been Joyce Meyers. lol.
Even if it wasn't, seems Joyce used to be stronger in some areas and as she's gotten more popular has softened on some things.
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Originally Posted by
fuego
Me either. I still like it as my main Bible. As I said before I like it's word for word in many places that make it hard to teach the same things as accurately as other translations.
So up your nose with a rubber hose VW!!!
He's entirely right. One finds out when facing a Calvinist going through the KJV rendering of Eph 1-2 word for word. Having read only the Norwegian versions when reading entire chapters at that point, I couldn't believe how Calvinism friendly the KJV made those chapters. I was relieved when I looked up several other English translations and found that they all sounded more like the Norwegian one does.
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I see plenty of scriptures in my KJV that speak against calvin's teachings.
If it is calvin leaning, they did a poor job.
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Originally Posted by
Farm Truck
I see plenty of scriptures in my KJV that speak against calvin's teachings.
If it is calvin leaning, they did a poor job.
There were teams of translators concentrating on different parts.
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Originally Posted by
fuego
Me either. I still like it as my main Bible. As I said before I like it's word for word in many places that make it hard to teach the same things as accurately as other translations.
So up your nose with a rubber hose VW!!!
I would not do well with a rubber hose in my nose. It might make me look like an elephant
But as the Colonel stated above, there were a number of translators of the KJV and many of them were Calvvies
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Originally Posted by
fuego
Huh? What a stupid answer.
Being a she must have been Joyce Meyers. lol.
Even if it wasn't, seems Joyce used to be stronger in some areas and as she's gotten more popular has softened on some things.
Yes, it was her. I think R. T. Kendall (a Charismatic Calvinist) has had a lot of influence over her.
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Originally Posted by
Farm Truck
I see plenty of scriptures in my KJV that speak against calvin's teachings.
If it is calvin leaning, they did a poor job.
They did a fantastic job here:
Act_13:48
And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.
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Originally Posted by
victoryword
They did a fantastic job here:
Act_13:48
And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.
That's why people need to actually study and compare, etc. :)
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Originally Posted by
victoryword
They did a fantastic job here:
Act_13:48
And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.
Yes, and plenty of other scriptures in the KJV make it very clear that it's entirely possible for one to lose their salvation.
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Originally Posted by
fuego
That's why people need to actually study and compare, etc. :)
Originally Posted by
Farm Truck
Yes, and plenty of other scriptures in the KJV make it very clear that it's entirely possible for one to lose their salvation.
I agree that even within the KJV you can always find Scripture that counters some of the Calvinistically influenced passages, but my point still stands that the KJV has Calvinistic influence.
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