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    I only had the KJV in my early days...Sometimes If I got bogged down I would simply translate the thee's and thou's to common English and that helped...I like it, the NKJV and the NAS...sometimes I read the Amplified but rarely..The one I have on my Kindle is the Spirit Filled Study Bible. When I don't want to stop and read the commentary I just skip over it...but I get what the author was saying...some of them have been so simplified that they are no accurate...

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    Quote Originally Posted by curly sue View Post
    KJV Only? Well that's a can of worms. Ok article otherwise.
    He's not KJV only. Trust me on this. He's just talking about some versions. I agree with him on the NIV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quest View Post
    I only had the KJV in my early days...Sometimes If I got bogged down I would simply translate the thee's and thou's to common English and that helped...I like it, the NKJV and the NAS...sometimes I read the Amplified but rarely..
    I still use it as my main Bible because I'm so used to it. I do the same about translating it. Even when reading it out loud to teach I translate the thees and thous as I go. There are some things I teach that are hard to teach out of other versions because of the exactness of word for word translation by the KJV and others just give their idea of what it's saying. They paraphrase it or like the NIV, they 'functional equivalent' it. It's not the same as the KJV.

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    Getting back to the OP, I fully agree. Yesterday I heard a very well known minister and author of many books make a ridiculous statement. At first she was doing well in teaching on faith but then she said something to the effect, "People always asking why did this good person die and that bad person is allowed to live a long life? ....God loves mysteries."

    I said that this is NOT Biblical and the fact this person has such an influence over millions of people helps to spread this type of foolishness. God always reveals His "mysteries" and no curse comes upon anyone without a cause (Prov. 26:2).

    Another minister of a mega church just apologized for calling himself a Christian because it offends people. He has vowed to only refer to himself as a "follower of Christ" from now on.

    This is what is going on in the "big preacher" realm these days :)
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    Not sure why anyone would want to stick to the Calvinistically influenced KJV. Read your history ya'll.
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    Ephesians 1-2 is more calvinistic in the KJV than it is in most other translations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by victoryword View Post
    Getting back to the OP, I fully agree. Yesterday I heard a very well known minister and author of many books make a ridiculous statement. At first she was doing well in teaching on faith but then she said something to the effect, "People always asking why did this good person die and that bad person is allowed to live a long life? ....God loves mysteries."

    I said that this is NOT Biblical and the fact this person has such an influence over millions of people helps to spread this type of foolishness. God always reveals His "mysteries" and no curse comes upon anyone without a cause (Prov. 26:2).

    Another minister of a mega church just apologized for calling himself a Christian because it offends people. He has vowed to only refer to himself as a "follower of Christ" from now on.

    This is what is going on in the "big preacher" realm these days :)
    I prefer Christ follower but not because Christian offends people...more because Christian holds so many watered down influences..in the NT is was used to categorize a specific group..Christ followers and now it's is just a religion in many circles.

    But on faith...I believe there is a massive misunderstanding about what faith is, what it does.

    In the Calvin influence it is almost always referred to in a passive tense...If it's God's will He will....whatever. But we know there are many verifications that faith is an ACTION word that must be applied to God's Word...for instance on the Holy Spirit baptism..God will fill me IF He WILLS it or I desire and receive the Holy Spirit BECAUSE IT IS HIS WILL....

    To not give attention to the things God clearly states are His will and apply faith to receive them is the principle of the law of faith..to be passive does not RECEIVE the promise..it typically only gets one to the HOPE phase...

    Yes, God is able at some points to stretch them but it is more like having to bread crumb them to it and in many cases, again such as the HS baptism or healing, is never attained. Seems they are afraid to believe in the adamant will of God and AGREE with HIM for the manifestation...this belief system is the breading ground of doubt and unbelief...

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    Quote Originally Posted by victoryword View Post
    Not sure why anyone would want to stick to the Calvinistically influenced KJV. Read your history ya'll.
    Odd...I read KJV only for many years and never gleaned Calvinistic views...did not even know what they were until I started spending time on the internet..

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    Excellent.

    Quote Originally Posted by Quest View Post
    I prefer Christ follower but not because Christian offends people...more because Christian holds so many watered down influences..in the NT is was used to categorize a specific group..Christ followers and now it's is just a religion in many circles.

    But on faith...I believe there is a massive misunderstanding about what faith is, what it does.

    In the Calvin influence it is almost always referred to in a passive tense...If it's God's will He will....whatever. But we know there are many verifications that faith is an ACTION word that must be applied to God's Word...for instance on the Holy Spirit baptism..God will fill me IF He WILLS it or I desire and receive the Holy Spirit BECAUSE IT IS HIS WILL....

    To not give attention to the things God clearly states are His will and apply faith to receive them is the principle of the law of faith..to be passive does not RECEIVE the promise..it typically only gets one to the HOPE phase...

    Yes, God is able at some points to stretch them but it is more like having to bread crumb them to it and in many cases, again such as the HS baptism or healing, is never attained. Seems they are afraid to believe in the adamant will of God and AGREE with HIM for the manifestation...this belief system is the breading ground of doubt and unbelief...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quest View Post
    Odd...I read KJV only for many years and never gleaned Calvinistic views...
    Me either. I still like it as my main Bible. As I said before I like it's word for word in many places that make it hard to teach the same things as accurately as other translations.

    So up your nose with a rubber hose VW!!!

























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