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    And here is Lesson #24


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    Awesome testimony about tongues at around the 58 min mark.

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    WOW! At 1:01 there is a real eye opener for us.

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    Never seen that Nemo movie. He talks about tithing for the first time and he concludes with the same thinking that I have been talking about here, that everything we are and have belongs to Jesus to begin with and there is no 90% to keep. Then there is such a thing as being lead by the Holy Spirit.

    He talks about baptism in water again. I've seen all the 24 videos and he never addresses this verse or the chapter it is quoted from :

    1 Cor 1:17 For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel, not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of no effect.

    I think it is good that he emphasizes baptism in water when so many downplay or ignore it but I find it a bit intellectually dishonest when he always avoids that specific scripture, it is not an obscure one. The honest thing to do would be to address it at all somewhere along the way.

    His interpretation of Romans 10:9-10 is totally ridiculous since the context in verse 1 and 14 is getting unbelieving Israelites saved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    Never seen that Nemo movie. He talks about tithing for the first time and he concludes with the same thinking that I have been talking about here, that everything we are and have belongs to Jesus to begin with and there is no 90% to keep. Then there is such a thing as being lead by the Holy Spirit.

    He talks about baptism in water again. I've seen all the 24 videos and he never addresses this verse or the chapter it is quoted from :

    1 Cor 1:17 For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel, not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of no effect.

    I think it is good that he emphasizes baptism in water when so many downplay or ignore it but I find it a bit intellectually dishonest when he always avoids that specific scripture, it is not an obscure one. The honest thing to do would be to address it at all somewhere along the way.

    His interpretation of Romans 10:9-10 is totally ridiculous since the context in verse 1 and 14 is getting unbelieving Israelites saved.
    Paul did have people baptize for him, so he wasn't against it. I still think it's a good thing to have people baptize their own converts though in general if possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    Paul did have people baptize for him, so he wasn't against it. I still think it's a good thing to have people baptize their own converts though in general if possible.
    I didn't bother to exegete the whole passage. It's obvious that people were generally baptized as they came to believe but Paul's statement makes water baptism far less than essential for salvation. I'm sure Søndergaard is nowhere near being a baptismal regenerationist (that's a theological term) but his avoidance of scriptures like that and his crazy interpretation of Romans 10:9-10 makes him seem closer to the borderline than he really is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    Never seen that Nemo movie. He talks about tithing for the first time and he concludes with the same thinking that I have been talking about here, that everything we are and have belongs to Jesus to begin with and there is no 90% to keep. Then there is such a thing as being lead by the Holy Spirit.

    He talks about baptism in water again. I've seen all the 24 videos and he never addresses this verse or the chapter it is quoted from :

    1 Cor 1:17 For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel, not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of no effect.

    I think it is good that he emphasizes baptism in water when so many downplay or ignore it but I find it a bit intellectually dishonest when he always avoids that specific scripture, it is not an obscure one. The honest thing to do would be to address it at all somewhere along the way.

    His interpretation of Romans 10:9-10 is totally ridiculous since the context in verse 1 and 14 is getting unbelieving Israelites saved.
    He did address that scripture. I will see if I can zero in on it for you.

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    It is at the 46 minute mark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    His interpretation of Romans 10:9-10 is totally ridiculous since the context in verse 1 and 14 is getting unbelieving Israelites saved.
    Actually, if you read chapters 9 through 11 straight through, as Paul was expressing it instead of just picking those 2 "werses" out, it isn't totally ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezekiel 33 View Post
    It is at the 46 minute mark.
    Funny, I looked for it again after having watched the video first and still missed it. I'll look at it later when I can watch video.

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