A A Allen Meeting

[Cardinal TT]

Wasn't A A Allen an alcoholic ?

Non fermented

[Colonel]

Non fermented

Never heard of the phenomenon.

[Valiant Woman]

I remember Schambauch, who travelled with Allen as his 'helper', telling an amazing story about how every person in a particular service was healed one night in an Allen meeting. An extraordinary single miracle occurred, a child being healed in front of everyone who had a deformed skeleton type disease I think (along with hearing bones crack as they went into place during the healing), and at the end of that miracle the power of God falling in the whole building and every sick person being healed, including people that wore glasses.

in class we saw a video of one of his meetings where he laid hands on a little girl that had one leg shorter than the other...We watched the leg literally grow to be even with the other leg!

[Valiant Woman]

Gene sang in an Azusa conference in Tulsa, I forget the year, I just found the video--

That was awesome, but I felt more of a connection with the first video with Allen. But it could be me feeling a certain kind of way.

[Pentecali]

Is Earnestine Reems still around?

You know Ernestine?? How?
She's still alive. I think she's getting close to 90 but you would never know it.
She had a church up on high st & McAuthur .. She built a big church, several blocks, but the son took over and there's not much going on now.

[Pentecali]

Wasn't A A Allen an alcoholic or at least an occasional drunk ?

As was common amongst early Pentecostals, he taught divine healing, no doctors or medicine allowed.
Instead of doctors and medicine to deal with his own pain, he turned to alcohol to numb the pain, trying to be faithful to his teachings of not going to doctors

[Colonel]

Didn't they also teach that no alcohol was allowed ?

What did he suffer from ?

[fuego]

There was always reports of the alcohol abuse.

I heard Bobby Conner teaching from Morning Star on God TV one time during their 'Honoring the Fathers' conference talking about mentioning AA Allen in a sermon someplace and basically relaying what he read from God's Generals about Allen dying drunk, etc. I don't remember the exact details, but basically he said Jesus appeared to him and said that he had lied about His servant and that Allen had died righteous before Him and that he needed to go back to that congregation and correct himself. He said Jesus also told him "he was murdered by the Christian mafia", but not sure what that means exactly.

Here is a video where he talks about it, just a couple of minutes long. This isn't the one I originally saw though, but it has more detail.

[FaithfulOne]

You know Ernestine?? How?
She's still alive. I think she's getting close to 90 but you would never know it.
She had a church up on high st & McAuthur .. She built a big church, several blocks, but the son took over and there's not much going on now.

She was at an Azusa meeting, don't remember when it was. I had not heard of her at that time, and certainly didn't know about her relation with Tremaine.

[Colonel]

There was always reports of the alcohol abuse.

I heard Bobby Conner teaching from Morning Star on God TV one time during their 'Honoring the Fathers' conference talking about mentioning AA Allen in a sermon someplace and basically relaying what he read from God's Generals about Allen dying drunk, etc. I don't remember the exact details, but basically he said Jesus appeared to him and said that he had lied about His servant and that Allen had died righteous before Him and that he needed to go back to that congregation and correct himself. He said Jesus also told him "he was murdered by the Christian mafia", but not sure what that means exactly.

Here is a video where he talks about it, just a couple of minutes long. This isn't the one I originally saw though, but it has more detail.

Do you think it is possible that he is so desperate to have Christians believe what is saying that he is lying about Jesus appearing to him to tell him that ?