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Thread: Outside of straight Scriptures, the best teaching on Baptism in the Holy Spirit.

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    Wow! I was gone for awhile, but great conversation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    Been meaning to get back to this thread and forgot.

    Here is an example of wrong teaching, or wrong assumption, or just not being taught correctly and how I approach getting people filled since so many are in error about what they believe concerining the baptism in the Holy Spirit and speaking in tongues. And this example is indicative of MANY I have run across over the years. I might even say MOST of the people who have wanted to be filled.

    I was teaching by class at Bible college on this very subject, and going through my doc on how to get others filled. I was talking about the main error many have, which is thinking that the Holy Spirit is going to take them over and MAKE them speak in tongues. I gave the example I use about it's NOT like swallowing a radio and opening your mouth and the tongues just come out independent of you. That you have to use your own breath, mouth, tongue, etc, and you have to speak yourself, and you're speaking what the Holy Spirit is unctioning/enabling you to speak. And I made the remark that you can get the 'hard cases' filled just explaining that one thing.

    So there is a man in there with his daughter visiting the class and checking out the school for his daughter. He was about my age. So when I get through teaching, he comes up to me and stands in front of me and stares me right in the eyes, no 'hello', no 'i enjoyed it', no 'how are you doing?' He just looks at me and says, "I'm one of those hard cases". Let me add I believe this was a divine setup for him anyway. I normally taught that class on Tuesdays but another teacher needed to switch so I ended up teaching on Thursday instead. And he was in that class. He also told me he had been 'seeking' for TEN YEARS.

    So to make a long story short, we sat down, he asked questions and I explained things to him; addressed some errors he had in his thinking; taught him how to receive. So we go back toward the back of the room and sit down in a couple of chairs with him facing me with the wall right behind me. A lot was going on in the room and I didn't want him to be distracted or self conscious. So again, to make a long story short, after talking to him answering his questions, I laid hands on him and he started speaking in tongues immediately. After seeking TEN YEARS and having been prayed for by countless people over the years. And the only difference was I took time to explain to him how to receive, and addressed his errors about how it was going to happen, and emphasized that the Holy Spirit doesn't speak in tongues, YOU do ("and THEY began to speak in tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance") and the Holy Spirit gives the utterance/enablement.

    So he gets one of those shafts of wheat in the wind thing going, swaying back and forth and speaking in tongues sitting there. :) While all this was going on, his daughter was sitting a few rows up and watching us. When he got filled she started taking pics and stuff with her phone. So I asked her if she had been filled and she said no. Her dad mentions he needs to go check out of the hotel and he can go do that while I pray for her. She says ok. So to make another long story short, I talk to her, answer her questions and teach her how to receive, and lay hands on her and she gets filled and speaks in tongues. As I was leaving in my car she was standing outside waiting for him talking to her mom (his wife) about what had just happened. The wife/mom had been filled all these years but they never had.

    That's an example of knowing how to minister it properly can make a difference, especially with people who have been seeking a long time. No extra requirements other than being saved, etc. Just presenting it to them in an understandable way, dealing with error. It's a shame he had to wait for 10 years to be filled just because someone couldn't/didn't know how to answer his wrong thinking.

    I can give you a multitude of examples like this. The former Catholic who was now Charismatic and seeking for years, and getting him and his wife and 3 kids filled outside before a tent meeting; one fellow that others had been praying for for 30 minutes and getting no results, sitting him down and talking to him for 5 minutes and then laying hands on him again and him receiving immediately; another that hadn't received and then went out to lunch with him and talked to him and after we ate, him and his buddy getting filled in the parking lot of Chilis; the girl who cut my hair and she had questions about it because of something I said and her getting filled and speaking in tongues in the middle of the hair salon; etc, etc, etc. I've forgotten more of them than I can remember.

    Is the only requirement they be saved? Yes. But we're not talking about adding requirements, we're talking about teaching them properly to receive when they are full of wrong teaching and error about it.
    Excellent, you need to get out and about more. ;)

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