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    well, maybe you are loosing freedom in the US,
    but not here in Europe
    And yes, here in Albania we have freedom of religion which means by law Jesus equals Mohammed
    I really appreciate this.
    The Home for disabled children we visit every thursday (in corona free times) is directed by a moslem who encourages us to do a christian programm
    I would immediatly sign a paper saying that everybody has the right to worship whoever he wants to worship

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    Albania is under the countries here in the Balkan the one who has in law and in daily life the most religeouss freedom. Albanians are very proud about this. For us missionaries this is a wonderful opportunity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tschau View Post
    well, maybe you are loosing freedom in the US,
    but not here in Europe
    And yes, here in Albania we have freedom of religion which means by law Jesus equals Mohammed
    I really appreciate this.
    The Home for disabled children we visit every thursday (in corona free times) is directed by a moslem who encourages us to do a christian programm
    I would immediatly sign a paper saying that everybody has the right to worship whoever he wants to worship
    They do have the right to worship whoever they wish. But what if................

    What if you were actually walking around there as an actual disciple of Jesus, and preaching repentance and remission of sins just as Jesus commanded us to do. You would be in trouble, right? That is where all this is heading. The devil is working overtime to try and stop the gospel message from being proclaimed. He doesn't want people set free from sin. He wants them to spend eternity with him in the lake of fire.

    But we, as disciples of Jesus are commanded to speak the Truth in love. We are supposed to love these people enough to warn them that they are going to hell if they do not repent. We are called to explain to them that Islam will not get them eternal life with the Father. There is only one name under heaven by which men may be saved, and that name is Jesus. Muhammad can't save you, Buddah can't save you. Baal or Molech can't save you. There is only one name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tschau View Post
    well, maybe you are loosing freedom in the US,
    but not here in Europe
    And yes, here in Albania we have freedom of religion which means by law Jesus equals Mohammed
    I really appreciate this.
    The Home for disabled children we visit every thursday (in corona free times) is directed by a moslem who encourages us to do a christian programm
    I would immediatly sign a paper saying that everybody has the right to worship whoever he wants to worship

    That is not accurate what you say about loosing freedom in the US but not in Europe.
    There are European Christians very concerned about freedoms being eroded as well as believers in England and Scotland.

    I am in Australia and we are under pressure from LGBTQ laws. Christian teachers have to be extremely careful what they say in class or they could lose their jobs.
    Non Christians can promote all sorts of ungodly things and they will not be questioned about their views.

    You are fortunate to be in Albania because they are a mess economically with much poverty and will accept outside help.
    But this does not apply to many other Islamic nations in the Middle East as well as Africa. Christians have recently been killed in Indonesia by Muslims and churches attacked in many places.
    Christian women are being raped and men murdered. Christian children are put into forced Islamic marriages.

    My Church sent 2 missionaries to help Muslims back in 1998 and they were both kidnapped by the Taliban and close to being martyred but thank God they were rescued.
    My involvement with Islam dates decades but you have only been in 1 Islamic nation a very short time.

    You need more understanding of what is going on in many places around the world.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tschau View Post
    Albania is under the countries here in the Balkan the one who has in law and in daily life the most religeouss freedom. Albanians are very proud about this. For us missionaries this is a wonderful opportunity.

    Praise the Lord and we give thanks Albania is open. You have opportunities that many other believers wish they could have in other nations.
    But Albania is a very small Islamic nation and cannot be compared to the rest of the Islamic World.

    You need to see the bigger picture that christians in most Islamic nations are under intense pressure and many are persecuted.


    Quote Originally Posted by tschau View Post
    I would immediatly sign a paper saying that everybody has the right to worship whoever he wants to worship
    I didn't ask you about your above comment
    What I asked was would you sign a declaration stating that Mohammed is equal to Jesus if that was the only way the Albanian govt. would let you stay in the country

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezekiel 33 View Post
    They do have the right to worship whoever they wish. But what if................

    What if you were actually walking around there as an actual disciple of Jesus, and preaching repentance and remission of sins just as Jesus commanded us to do. You would be in trouble, right? That is where all this is heading. The devil is working overtime to try and stop the gospel message from being proclaimed. He doesn't want people set free from sin. He wants them to spend eternity with him in the lake of fire.

    But we, as disciples of Jesus are commanded to speak the Truth in love. We are supposed to love these people enough to warn them that they are going to hell if they do not repent. We are called to explain to them that Islam will not get them eternal life with the Father. There is only one name under heaven by which men may be saved, and that name is Jesus. Muhammad can't save you, Buddah can't save you. Baal or Molech can't save you. There is only one name.
    Oh no, here in Albania as well as in Switzerland you can preach as Jesus commanded us. No problem at all.

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    C TT If a write here 2-3 sentences I know, and you know too, that I am not covering all facts of all countries. I try to talk about what I know for sure.

    The most chilling fact is that European-style speech controls have become a core value in the Democratic Party.
    I do not understand this quote. What are european-style- speech controlls? Do people in the US really believe this?
    I am saying, that this is not true for Switzerland, Albania or Germany.

    No, I would not sign a paper saying that Jesus equals Mohammed. Is there a country where this is requested?
    If you are serving in a moslem country you have to be more careful to what you are saying. You maybe do not evangelize american style. I know that in many moslem countries missionaries serve people and wait for questions coming, then they use the opportunity to answer.

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    You need to see the bigger picture that christians in most Islamic nations are under intense pressure and many are persecuted.
    As a part of a big organisation (coming from the US) I am very much aware about the situation in many moslem countries. We receive regulary informations about specific needs and problems and we pray weekly on our prayer day. I see a bigger picture. But what is happening for example in Bangadesh is not really connected to the theme on this thread.

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    I don't know what this means as I didn't write it.
    The most chilling fact is that European-style speech controls have become a core value in the Democratic Party

    But what is happening for example in Bangadesh is not really connected to the theme on this thread
    It's not just Bangladesh but many Islamic nations treat Christians as lower people and they don't have the same freedoms

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    Quote Originally Posted by tschau View Post
    As a part of a big organisation (coming from the US) I am very much aware about the situation in many moslem countries. We receive regulary informations about specific needs and problems and we pray weekly on our prayer day. I see a bigger picture. But what is happening for example in Bangadesh is not really connected to the theme on this thread.
    I am glad you are reading and keeping informed about Islam globally

    Just some information...
    My Church supported missionaries to Afghanistan/Pakistan back in 1998 and I personally know the 2 kidnapped believers.
    I also witnessed to a Afghan refugee who fled Afghanistan from the Taliban and he accepted Jesus.
    I am saying this to let you know I have been involved and aware of Islam for a long time and speak with some knowledge and understanding.

    I was scheduled to speak to christian missionaries from different nations in Pakistan in 1999 but it was cancelled due to the situation becoming dangerous and volatile.
    After that the 2 missionaries from our church as well as others were kidnapped and PTL God rescued all of them and he used American Special forces.

    Will always be grateful to America for doing this - BTW no other nation would of or could of done this. Thank God for them

    America may get ridiculed by many but without the USA this world would be living in totalitarianism.

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