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    He woke up and rebuked the wind, and said to the sea, "Peace! Be still!" Then the wind ceased, and there was a dead calm. He said to them, "Why are you afraid? Have you still no faith?" And they were filled with great awe and said to one another, "Who then is this, that even the wind and the sea obey him?"
    Rebuking renegade weather is wholly within the mandate of the believer.

    Quiet! Be still!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FunFromOz View Post
    Those who do tend to be Cessationists present a reasonable Biblical defence for their belief Colonel.
    No, they don't. I've debated dozens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FunFromOz View Post
    Sorry, who else controls the weather Colonel?
    God has allowed some of his people to change the weather like Elijah, Joshua and Samuel but it doesn't mean they are trying to be God.

    You can strongly disagree with her but it is taking it too far to say she is trying to be like God. She can be sincerely wrong even deceived but that is different from your comment.

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    God has allowed some of his people to change the weather like Elijah, Joshua and Samuel but it doesn't mean they are trying to be God.

    You can strongly disagree with her but it is taking it too far to say she is trying to be like God. She can be sincerely wrong even deceived but that is different from your comment.
    I know "Elijah went up to the top of Carmel; and he crouched down on the earth and put his face between his knees" and prayed for rain. And he had to do that seven times. And he had just his servant with him, not several thousand of his online followers. And he prayed to God, he didn't rebuke the demons of drought. Not sure when Joshua and Samuel did it.

    However these men were genuine Prophets of God, obeying God, and doing things for the glory of God, not someone claiming to be a "charismatic prophetess and self-self-styled "weather warrior" who battles against Mother Nature and other demonic spirits", oh and able to "assign 100 million angels to the Republican National Convention".

    What did I say then? I said "KK is trying to be like God, controlling the weather". In Ps 82:6 (quoted by Jesus in 10:34) is the phrase "I said, "You are gods," and in 1973 I was at a camp where a WOF preacher mentioned that but said he'd only preach it to pastors. So it is possible that KK's heard such a message and taken it to heart. Maybe. Maybe I'm not wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FunFromOz View Post
    It was never going to work.

    And if a Reformed leader embarrassed himself in such a stupid, unbelievable, non-Biblical fashion I'd make a thread about it.
    John Mac provides plenty of stupidity for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    I have come across some terrible articles about Baptist pastors who are obviously Reformed and engaged in pedophilia but I don't put them up.

    I may not agree with Katt Kerr but pedophilia is much worse but your previous posts show a bias to ridicule charismatic leaders and ignore the carnality and sins of Reformed leaders.


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    Psalm 1:1 (AMP)
    BLESSED (HAPPY, fortunate, prosperous, and enviable) is the man who walks and lives not in the counsel of the ungodly [following their advice, their plans and purposes], nor stands [submissive and inactive] in the path where sinners walk, nor sits down [to relax and rest] where the scornful [and the mockers] gather.






    This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity (futility) of their mind, having the understanding darkened...
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    I'm curious, Oz. If a major weather catastrophe was headed directly for you, would you calmly sit and wait for it to arrive...or would you actively pray against it? I would do the latter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FunFromOz View Post
    I know "Elijah went up to the top of Carmel; and he crouched down on the earth and put his face between his knees" and prayed for rain. And he had to do that seven times. And he had just his servant with him, not several thousand of his online followers. And he prayed to God, he didn't rebuke the demons of drought. Not sure when Joshua and Samuel did it.

    However these men were genuine Prophets of God, obeying God, and doing things for the glory of God, not someone claiming to be a "charismatic prophetess and self-self-styled "weather warrior" who battles against Mother Nature and other demonic spirits", oh and able to "assign 100 million angels to the Republican National Convention".

    What did I say then? I said "KK is trying to be like God, controlling the weather". In Ps 82:6 (quoted by Jesus in 10:34) is the phrase "I said, "You are gods," and in 1973 I was at a camp where a WOF preacher mentioned that but said he'd only preach it to pastors. So it is possible that KK's heard such a message and taken it to heart. Maybe. Maybe I'm not wrong.
    So what you're saying is that you made up some accusation and you're hoping that you're right about its basis but you're not sure.

    Does "judge not according to appearances but judge righteously" apply to you ? Do you think God will judge you according to that verse when you stand before him ? Do you have any fear of the God who inspired those words in the Bible ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bookman View Post
    I'm curious, Oz. If a major weather catastrophe was headed directly for you, would you calmly sit and wait for it to arrive...or would you actively pray against it? I would do the latter.
    Of course pray.

    I remember a story from decades ago so I don't know which way it goes, either there being rain and it not coming to the person or a storm coming. Anyway the person prayed and either the rain he needed came or the storm went the other way. But the follow up line is that someone else might have needed that rain too, or now someone else had to face the storm and the damage.

    But praying, even praying against something is a lot different to "rebuk(ing) the satanic spirits of the hurricane and declared them "illegal."

    Apparently she also said "We also will be commanding the millibars or the pressure to rise in that storm. As the pressure rises it downgrades that storm, because that storm feeds on low-pressure system, so when we call the high pressure to come from inside that storm, you're actually beating that storm up."

    Neither of those things are praying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    Does "judge not according to appearances but judge righteously" apply to you ? Do you think God will judge you according to that verse when you stand before him ? Do you have any fear of the God who inspired those words in the Bible ?
    Of course I fear God. But I will not stand by while God is mocked.

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