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Ministers who are founders of successful ministries or built a great church, sometimes adding a college and retirement homes to boot, think they own that ministry. They think the ministry cannot survive without them or family.
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Originally Posted by
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The story is getting worse, seriously worse. Anyway, I won't post links but do hope they repent and get off the front page, this is crazy.
In hindsight I regret posting the link that I did. I thought it might give some perspective to Falwell's behavior but now I wish I hadn't because I don't know how much truth or distortion is in these articles.
I read the one that ArchBishopTT posted and I am hoping that none of this is true. The media lies too much for me to take everything they say as truth. But if it is true then it is heartbreaking beyond belief.
On another note, I can think of sons who are doing good jobs of taking over their father's ministries (Examples: I think Fred Price Jr. is doing a good job taking over his father's work, Kenneth Hagin Jr. I s also doing a good job with Rhema, and Matt Hagee looks like he will do well with his father's ministry). But I do agree that this should NOT be automatic. It is God's work and not man's. If God did not select one's child to be the successor of a ministry then one should not try to force it. Fuego already provided a good example with Kolenda.
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I think Kolenda was his personal assistent to begin with. He does hail from five generations of pentecostal preachers though.
Yeah. Kolenda wasn't a 'seasoned' minister when he started with Bonnke. Just a kid out of Bible college.
Interesting story, when we were at BRSM (Brownsville Revival School of Ministry), I had to critique some student's sermons. Kolenda was one of them. Of course he was 'nobody', just a student, and I never even remembered his name, but he and one other person were real standouts to me and I told someone about both of them. Years later he's coming to our church in Charlotte (which was started by the former president of BRSM and many of the leadership) I saw his pic and recognized him as one of the two students that had stood out.
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Originally Posted by
fuego
Yeah. Kolenda wasn't a 'seasoned' minister when he started with Bonnke. Just a kid out of Bible college.
Interesting story, when we were at BRSM (Brownsville Revival School of Ministry), I had to critique some student's sermons. Kolenda was one of them. Of course he was 'nobody', just a student, and I never even remembered his name, but he and one other person were real standouts to me and I told someone about both of them. Years later he's coming to our church in Charlotte (which was started by the former president of BRSM and many of the leadership) I saw his pic and recognized him as one of the two students that had stood out.
I recently visited the A/G church in Marinette, Wisconsin that claimed Kolenda as their own. The church was dead, discouraged and drying up on the vine. They closed last year sometime. There were about 25 in attendance of which were several still talking about David Kollenda. When asked if I had heard of him and replying with a casual "not really" I was rather firmly ridiculed and laughed at. True story.
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Originally Posted by
victoryword
In hindsight I regret posting the link that I did. I thought it might give some perspective to Falwell's behavior but now I wish I hadn't because I don't know how much truth or distortion is in these articles.
I read the one that ArchBishopTT posted and I am hoping that none of this is true. The media lies too much for me to take everything they say as truth. But if it is true then it is heartbreaking beyond belief.
On another note, I can think of sons who are doing good jobs of taking over their father's ministries (Examples: I think Fred Price Jr. is doing a good job taking over his father's work, Kenneth Hagin Jr. I s also doing a good job with Rhema, and Matt Hagee looks like he will do well with his father's ministry). But I do agree that this should NOT be automatic. It is God's work and not man's. If God did not select one's child to be the successor of a ministry then one should not try to force it. Fuego already provided a good example with Kolenda.
It looks like Falwell Jr. never claimed spiritual authority for the school, in fact rejected the notion. He saw his role as strictly business/secular and delegated the spiritual responsibilities to others.
From his twitter feed:
You're putting your ignorance on display. I have never been a minister. UVA-trained lawyer and commercial real estate developer for 20 yrs. Univ president for last 12 years-student body tripled to 100000+/endowment from 0 to $2 billion and $1.6B new construction in those 12 years
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Originally Posted by
FireBrand
I recently visited the A/G church in Marinette, Wisconsin that claimed Kolenda as their own. The church was dead, discouraged and drying up on the vine. They closed last year sometime. There were about 25 in attendance of which were several still talking about David Kollenda. When asked if I had heard of him and replying with a casual "not really" I was rather firmly ridiculed and laughed at. True story.
Crazy.
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Originally Posted by
John
It looks like Falwell Jr. never claimed spiritual authority for the school, in fact rejected the notion. He saw his role as strictly business/secular and delegated the spiritual responsibilities to others.
From his twitter feed:
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Rules for thee ....
I never realized he wasn't a minister.
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Originally Posted by
John
It looks like Falwell Jr. never claimed spiritual authority for the school, in fact rejected the notion. He saw his role as strictly business/secular and delegated the spiritual responsibilities to others.
From his twitter feed:
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Rules for thee ....
Now THIS does bring more light upon the situation.
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Hmmm, I thought it was common knowledge that he was nowhere near as "spiritual" as his Dad.
EDITED TO ADD: However, as a "so-called" Christian, you'd think he'd have more discretion and wisdom than he has shown.
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Romans828
Hmmm, I thought it was common knowledge that he was nowhere near as "spiritual" as his Dad.
EDITED TO ADD: However, as a "so-called" Christian, you'd think he'd have more discretion and wisdom than he has shown.
Especially when Paul has called all believers to live above reproach and there never to be a hint of immorality in our lives. Sounds like he has some legalism in his life.
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