Thread: Bishop 'outraged'

Originally Posted by FaithfulOne

And the president should not bear false witness in regard to 99.9999999999999% of what comes out of his mouth or Twitter fingers on any given day. But one's "false witness"is another's Gospel truth, soooo...

Who in the entire he** "inspects a bunker"???

Trump Is Still Trying to Save Face Over the Whole "Hiding in a Bunker" Thing | Vanity Fair

Reportedly angered by the perception that he was hiding in a bunker while parts of Washington, D.C., burned around him over the weekend, Donald Trump reemerged publicly on Monday to speak in the Rose Garden as peaceful protesters were violently expelled near the White House. The crowd was cleared to open a path to St. John's Church, a historic building damaged by a fire amid Sunday's clashes between police and protesters. In helping to set up the president's church photo op, Bill Barr, Trump's attorney general attack dog, ordered law enforcement to disperse the demonstrators, leading to the use of chemical agents, flash bangs, and shields to beat them back.

Trump got his comeback glamour shots—posing in front of St. John's while waving around "a Bible" for the cameras—and is now denying that he ever retreated to said bunker at all. During a Wednesday interview on Fox News Radio, the president acknowledged that, yes, he did briefly go subterranean, but only to inspect the secure quarters. "Well, it was a false report," he told Fox's Brian Kilmeade. "I went down during the day, and I was there for a tiny little short period of time, and it was much more for an inspection. There was no problem during the day." The president went on to say that he'd "gone down two or three times, all for inspection," because "someday you may need it," the implication being that nationwide unrest, triggered by a white Minneapolis police officer killing George Floyd, an unarmed black man, was not one of those times. "We never had a problem. Nobody ever came close to giving us a problem," he said, noting in the same breath that "one evening...was a little rough," so that's why he "brought in the troops."

Those hundreds of active-duty military personnel sent to protect the capital are already starting to head back to their home bases after two full days and nights of largely peaceful protesting in D.C. But Trump is still hung up on the "lamestream media" coverage of his church offensive. While telling Kilmeade that he had no idea about the park protesters and was not behind the order to "move them out," he insisted that law enforcement actually "didn't use tear gas." On Twitter the president has lashed out at media reports referencing tear gas, a chemical weapon that causes severe eye and respiratory pain, after the U.S. Park Police claimed that they, in fact, only discharged "pepper balls." He has also dispatched his communications staff to die on this hill. "We now know through the U.S. Park Police that neither they, nor any of their law enforcement partners, used tear gas to quell rising violence," said Trump campaign communications director Tim Murtaugh. "Every news organization which reported the tear gas lie should immediately correct or retract its erroneous reporting." White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany, too, said at Wednesday's briefing that "no tear gas was used" before the church pose, which she compared to Winston Churchill surveying bombing damage during World War II.

Can't believe a syllable that comes out of that man's mouth.

Two points to make. First the protesters were not peaceful, Park police officers were hurt and there was damage done to buildings and monuments. Second, tear gas was not used, just look at the photos they printed. Do any of the police even have gas masks on...no.

Here are the facts from the Park police who were right in the middle of it:

U.S. Park Police Say 'No Tear Gas Was Used' to Clear White House Protesters

Originally Posted by GodismyJudge

Harvard study finds black people die as a result of police pulling back after brutality protests
Harvard study finds black people die as a result of police pulling back after brutality protests | Just The News

'My estimates show that we lost a thousand more lives, most of them black as well, because of an increase in homicides,' said Harvard's Roland Fryer

An upcoming study by Harvard economists found that many more black Americans die as a result of police drawdowns following high-profile, police brutality protests.

Police become skittish following viral, racially-charged police misconduct investigations, leading to reluctance to protect black neighborhoods, according to the to-be-released academic paper by Harvard economist Roland Fryer and co-author Tanaya Devi, reported on by The Wall Street Journal's Jason Riley. The study found that homicides and felonies spike immediately after the reported events in question, crime that hits black communities the hardest.

"When police were investigated following incidents of deadly force that had gone viral, police activity declined and violent crime spiked. It happened in Ferguson, Mo., after Michael Brown was shot by an officer. It happened in Chicago after a cop gunned down Laquan McDonald. And it occurred in Baltimore after Freddie Gray died in police custody," Riley wrote.

"In Chicago, there was a 90% drop in police-civilian contacts immediately after the announcement of an investigation, and Baltimore literally went to zero after a probe was announced there, he said. "In cities where these contacts fell the most, homicides increased the most. Sadly, the decision to launch department-wide state and federal inquiries into the deaths of Brown, McDonald and Gray resulted in numerous additional deaths. ... What happens, he said, is that police effectively pull back. They don't stop doing their jobs, but they become less proactive and curb their interactions with civilians."

Fryer told Riley that it wasn't the investigations themselves that are the problem so much as the circumstances under which they are launched. Fryer and Devi's research reportedly found that "investigations that weren't prompted by well-publicized events resulted in little change in police behavior and violent crime."

"But when I look at cities in which the investigation was preceded by a viral event," Fryer told Riley, "homicide goes up considerably. Total crime goes up considerably. ... My estimates show that we lost a thousand more lives, most of them black as well, because of an increase in homicides. ... I never would have guessed that if police stopped putting in the effort, that homicides would change like this. ... You hear some people say, 'Oh, we want to police our own neighborhoods, get out.' No, you don't want that. I guess I always knew it was a foolish idea, but I didn't realize it was this deadly."......

An excerpt from an article I just posted:

If the Ferguson effect of officers backing off law enforcement in minority neighborhoods is reborn as the Minneapolis effect, the thousands of law-abiding African-Americans who depend on the police for basic safety will once again be the victims...

The Myth of Systemic Police Racism

Originally Posted by krystian

Two points to make. First the protesters were not peaceful, Park police officers were hurt and there was damage done to buildings and monuments. Second, tear gas was not used, just look at the photos they printed. Do any of the police even have gas masks on...no.

Here are the facts from the Park police who were right in the middle of it:

U.S. Park Police Say 'No Tear Gas Was Used' to Clear White House Protesters

Don't let a good story get in the way of the facts.

Originally Posted by Pentecali

Why was he upset about holding up a bible? What did I miss

He was using the Bible as a prop for a photo-op, and he had peaceful protesters tear-gassed in order to clear the way for this photo-op.

I think that was his main objection.

Originally Posted by krystian

Can you give some examples of what you're referring to?

President Trump behaves in a manner that is completely opposite to the way in which followers of Jesus Christ are taught. He lies continuously, he brags, he makes up conspiracy theories about others, he cheats. I could go on and on. He's basically just a very nasty person.

Originally Posted by njtom

He was using the Bible as a prop for a photo-op, and he had peaceful protesters tear-gassed in order to clear the way for this photo-op.

I think that was his main objection.

I think the tear gas thing has been debunked. And it was ordered by the AG, not Trump.

Originally Posted by njtom

President Trump behaves in a manner that is completely opposite to the way in which followers of Jesus Christ are taught. He lies continuously, he brags, he makes up conspiracy theories about others, he cheats. I could go on and on. He's basically just a very nasty person.

What did you expect?

Another point is that President Trump wasn't carrying the Bible on his way to a church service so that he could actually read the passages that were under discussion during the service.

He never even walked inside the church. He never opened the book. He didn't say a word.

It was a stunt, a pose, a photo opp.