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    Virginia Beach Shooting: 11 Killed in Rampage at Municipal Center

    A municipal building in Virginia Beach, Va., was turned into a scene of carnage on Friday afternoon after a longtime public utilities employee began firing indiscriminately at his co-workers, killing at least 11 people and injuring six others before dying after a shootout with the police.

    It had been nearing closing time in an office offering some of the most mundane functions of city government, such as paying water bills and applying for building permits, when the employee, whose name and possible motive were not immediately disclosed, began stalking through several floors firing at his colleagues, the authorities said.

    The loud bursts of gunfire sent workers scrambling and barricading their office doors. “My boss basically was like, ‘This is not a drill, get down, call 911,’” Megan Banton, an administrative assistant who was in the building where the shooting happened, told reporters at the scene.

    About 20 people in her second-floor office were hugging and holding one another, she said, as a bloody scene unfolded in the building. They heard gunshots, shouts from police officers to “get down” and frantic conversations in a stairwell outside their office, she said. She stayed on the phone with 911 to make sure the police were coming.

    “They couldn’t come fast enough,” she said.

    The identities of the victims were not released. One of those injured was a police officer, who was saved by his bulletproof vest, said Chief James A. Cervera of the Virginia Beach Police Department.

    He called the shooting a “devastating incident” that “none of us want to be here talking about,” adding that it was “going to change the lives of a number of families in our city.”

    The shooting took place shortly after 4 p.m. within the sprawling Virginia Beach Municipal Center, a campus of city offices and agencies, including the Police Department. The attack unfolded on multiple floors in Building No. 2, which includes offices for planning and public works, among others, and is adjacent to City Hall.

    “This is the most devastating day in the history of Virginia Beach,” Mayor Robert M. Dyer said at an evening news conference.

    “The people involved are our friends, co-workers, neighbors, colleagues,” he continued before his voice trailed off and he bowed his head.

    Dale T. Gauding, a spokesman for Sentara Healthcare, said five patients were taken to Sentara Virginia Beach General Hospital.

    Another patient at Sentara Princess Anne Hospital was being picked up by helicopter and transferred to a trauma center at Sentara Norfolk General Hospital, he said. Details on their conditions were not immediately available.

    Another patient at Sentara Princess Anne Hospital was being picked up by helicopter and transferred to a trauma center at Sentara Norfolk General Hospital, he said. Details on their conditions were not immediately available.

    “You don’t prepare for something like this,” said Mayor Dyer. “It’s a nightmare no one wants to actually live through.”

    Nothing like this has happened in Virginia Beach in the 40 years that Guy King Tower, a City Council member and retired lawyer, has been living there. “Nothing remotely like it, certainly in my memory,” said Mr. Tower, who has been living in the city since the 1970s but just joined the council a month ago.

    He was at the municipal center early this afternoon, but left before the shooting. He said that Building 2 — where the shooting occurred — is connected by a tunnel to Building 1, which is the main administrative office.

    He said that in addition to a dominant Navy presence, the area also has Marine, Army and Air Force bases. “This is a military town, and people deal with the wages of war on a pretty regular basis,” Mr. Tower said. “There are a lot of people here who have had loved ones in harm’s way. But certainly a mass murder had never happened that I can recall.”

    The Kempsville Mennonite Church was hosting a graduation celebration for its high school seniors on Friday evening as the chaos unfolded just a few minutes up the road.

    William Yoder, 28, was one of the few people there to have heard about the shooting, because members of their community do not have televisions and many do not have smartphones.

    “It’s semirural in this area,” Mr. Yoder said. “The civic center is pretty close to farmland, a few neighborhoods. Most times it is fairly quiet.”

    “It is pretty shocking,” he added.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/31/u...-shooting.html

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    I have noticed an upswing of cpl talk on gun sites and Facebook pages. Some have made a public plea for citizens to get trained and carry.

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    VA Beach is about 1.5 hours from me...

    I have cousins down there, but, thank God, I haven't heard any (bad) news from anyone.

    Sad, Senseless and Tragic.

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    I understand the building was a "Gun Free" zone. That being the case, this must be a fake news item because there were no guns inside of the building as is clearly noted on the doors of the building. There go those conservatives again, trying to get everyone to have a gun to protect themselves from gunmen that don't exist in gun free zones. Besides, when the insane gunmen realize that nobody else has guns, they will put down their guns and live in peace with the rest of the world. It has to be true, I read it on the internet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tehilah Ba'Aretz View Post
    I understand the building was a "Gun Free" zone. That being the case, this must be a fake news item because there were no guns inside of the building as is clearly noted on the doors of the building. There go those conservatives again, trying to get everyone to have a gun to protect themselves from gunmen that don't exist in gun free zones. Besides, when the insane gunmen realize that nobody else has guns, they will put down their guns and live in peace with the rest of the world. It has to be true, I read it on the internet.
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    Crazy world. One discussion on a sportsmans forum was “are you more vigilant in public since the random shootings”. The society and world we now live in, wow. But then, you are living with rockets raining down. Things are rapidly changing here in the States.

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    I have to go renew my gun license in Israel this week. Let me tell you, that is not easy. We have very strict gun control laws here. I'm thinking of trading my 9mm for a 45 cal. But then I like having 15 rounds ready to go in a smaller size than that 45 I've been looking at. (Glock 19, 9mm with two spare mags. 45 rounds in easy reach.)

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