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    Comey: 'Patriots need to stand up' to Trump

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/16/polit..._medium=social

    Washington (CNN)Former FBI Director James Comey expressed outrage with President Donald Trump on Monday, saying he had taken the side of Russian President Vladimir Putin over his own country and calling on people to stand up against him.
    "This was the day an American president stood on foreign soil next to a murderous lying thug and refused to back his own country. Patriots need to stand up and reject the behavior of this president," Comey tweeted.


    It's becoming increasingly hard to "love" someone who by all appearances is committing treason.

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    And something from the beloved Fox News:

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/...st-russia.html

    Monday in Helsinki, President Trump left many deeply disappointed in his approach to his summit with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

    There was nothing inherently wrong with Trump's summit with Putin. In fact, I would argue that in many cases, some of the best diplomacy comes through face-to-face meetings with adversaries. Still, the meeting was highly problematic in how little Trump delivered on the serious issues surrounding Vladimir Putin and Russia's place in the modern world.

    For a sitting U.S. president to say publicly that he believes a foreign leader over his own intelligence team is shocking and admonishable. At a time when our democracy faces grave threats, it is deeply troubling that the president would side with the very country who attacked us.

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    https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/16/polit...tin/index.html

    "Trump's willful ignorance of the fact -- and yes, I do mean FACT -- that Russia actively interfered in the 2016 election is bad enough. His defense of Putin -- he says he didn't do it! -- in the face of the unanimous intelligence community conclusion that Russia did, in fact, meddle in our election is even worse. The silence of Republicans who would have crushed a Democrat -- or any other Republican politician -- for saying one tenth of what Trump has said (and tweeted) is appalling.

    But none of those things can match what Trump did Monday morning: Blaming America for a problem Russia created. And not just any problem. An attempt to undermine confidence in fair and free elections, a principle that sits at the heart of what has long distinguished the US from Russia and other authoritarian countries.
    To see Trump's tweet through a partisan or political lens is to miss the point. At root, what we are talking about is a foreign power engaging in purposeful, strategic and effective cyberwar against the United States. And not just once either -- as Coats' comments last week make clear. This is about defending what makes America great (sound familiar?).
    To call into question an attempt to ensure that future elections aren't affected in any way by foreign interference is the opposite of patriotism."

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    Trump changed his statement so I don't see the point to this thread.

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    Trump changed his statement so I don't see the point to this thread.
    He said he misspoke a word...if he changed the general (entire)statements about Russia and the 2016 election (or retracted his statements)
    I would like to see that.

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    What we know about the Trump campaign, the Trump White House, and Russia

    Rather than speculating about what we don't know about Trump and Russia, it's worth stepping back to see how much we do know.

    We know that Russia orchestrated a massive theft of information from the Democratic Party and the Clinton campaign, and used that information to help Donald Trump win the election.

    We know that Trump publicly asked Russia to do exactly what it did — to hack Clinton's emails — and we know that Trump repeatedly praised Vladimir Putin, at considerable political cost, in the aftermath. We know that Trump associates, like Roger Stone, appeared to have advance warning of the release of the hacked emails.

    We know that the willingness to cooperate with the Russians wasn't an idiosyncratic musing of Trump's, but suffused the top ranks of his campaign: Trump's inner circle — including Manafort, Jared Kushner, and Donald Trump Jr. — eagerly took a meeting with Russian operatives promising dirt on Clinton. And we know Trump himself dictated the statement lying about the purpose of the Trump Tower meeting.

    We know, from Trump's own testimony, that he fired the director of the FBI to end his investigation into Russia's role in the 2016 election. We know that Trump has wanted to fire both his attorney general and his deputy attorney general because he feels they've failed to protect him from this investigation. Tellingly, the Trump administration has moved from arguing that the president did not obstruct justice to arguing that by definition, the president cannot obstruct justice.

    We know in that in 2008, Donald Trump Jr. said of the Trump organization, "Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets." We know that in 2014, Eric Trump added, "We don't rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia." We know that from 2003 to 2017, "buyers connected to Russia or former Soviet republics made 86 all-cash sales — totaling nearly $109 million — at 10 Trump-branded properties in South Florida and New York City."

    We know that Paul Manafort, Trump's campaign manager, had ties to the Kremlin and was deeply in debt to Oleg Deripaska, a Russian oligarch closely connected to Putin. We know Manafort was in communication with Deripaska's team during the election, and that he asked, of his powerful position in Trump's campaign, "How do we use [it] to get whole?"

    We know that Russia's efforts to help Trump went far beyond hacked emails — they included social media campaigns to inflame racial divisions on his behalf, armies of bots meant to elevate news stories helping him and hurting Clinton, and even efforts to compromise state voting machines.

    We know that the Trump campaign interfered in the Republican National Committee's drafting of its platform to soften the language on Russia and Ukraine. We know that Kushner sought a secret communications channel with Russians so the US government couldn't hear their negotiations. We know that Trump has personally fought both his administration and his party to stop sanctions punishing Russia for electoral interference.

    We know that there is no single issue that has bedeviled the Trump administration as long or as much as Trump's connections to Russia. We know that since the election, Trump has bucked both his party and decades of American foreign policy to try to protect Russia from sanctions, pull American support back from both NATO and the European Union, and forge a closer personal relationship with Putin. We know Trump insisted on the Helsinki meeting with Putin over the objections of his staff and despite the absence of any clear agenda.


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    Firstly, Comey is not a patriot, and there are very few patriots in the Demoncrat party. You can tell this by the way they disregard and attack our Constitution. Secondly, we keep hearing about how wrong it was that someone messed with our elections, but everyone keeps skirting around the fact that the Demoncrat party were guilty of the very same offense. And finally, we do need to have an open dialogue with the Russians, China, and the North Koreans if we ever hope to have a good relationship with them.

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    So FO, the DNC manipulated the nomination so that Clinton would win it instead of Sanders, Trump let the Russians expose that to his own gain, the Russians boosted news articles positive of Trump, large parts of the mainstream media including Facebook and Google did and do all that they can at all times to publish and boost news articles negative of Trump. Treason against the democratic system on all sides, treason against journalistic integrity on all sides, manipulation of the internet on all sides. This is simply the world we live in, in 2018.

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