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    Are We Alone in the Universe?


    Are We Alone in the Universe?
    By Rob Schwarzwalder Published on July 1, 2018
    https://stream.org/are-we-alone-in-the-universe/

    Enrico Fermi was a brilliant Italian Jew. He was one of those rare intellects that, like a comet, is so vivid and rare as to be unforgettable.

    Fermi received his PhD in physics at age 21 and by age 25, with his friend Paul Dirac, had developed a whole new theory of particulate matter. In 1938, he won the Nobel Prize for physics (age 37), and then fled Mussolini’s fascist state. A nation that made a pact for world conquest with Nazi Germany was not a safe place for a son of Abraham.

    In the United States, Fermi played a leading role in the Manhattan project, and after the war continued making discoveries and offering ideas too advanced for most of us mortals.

    One of those ideas is called “the Fermi Paradox.” Put pretty simply, it’s this: The universe is so enormous that the human mind can’t comprehend it. It’s also, according to standard cosmology, around 14 billion years old.

    So: Combine age with size and you have to ask, If there is other intelligent life in the universe, why is there no sign of it? As Fermi joked when he introduced his paradox in 1950, “Where is everybody?”

    Scientists: Maybe We are Alone

    Now scientists at Oxford University’s Future of Humanity Institute have done some serious crunching of numbers and equations. “We find a substantial … probability of there being no other intelligent life in our observable universe,” they conclude, “and thus that there should be little surprise when we fail to detect any signs of it.”

    Their proposal has led to major debate within the scientific community. One critic says the Oxford guys are just “guessing, in the absence of any good evidence. That’s no way to do science.” ....


    ....I’ve learned to be wary when one “expert” blows off the work of others who know a great deal about their field of study. Especially when that latter group uses a key phrase to describe their argument: No observable evidence.

    In other words, we’ve found nothing in all of our investigations to lead us to think that other beings exist who have the capacity for reasoned thought, space travel, or intelligent communication.

    The point: Some very careful researchers are arguing that there are no data indicating the existence of intelligent life outside our own planet....




    ...Testimony of Scripture

    What should Christians conclude about the apparent absence of life in the rest of the universe we can see (estimated at being about 47 billion light years — a number too big to fit into our brains, but there it is)? There are three things we should bear in mind:

    1. In Scripture, only human beings are described as being made in the image and likeness of God (Genesis 1:26-27). Even angels don’t have the capacity for a relationship with our Creator and Redeemed, as do we. This is true of all creation. So, let’s say there are other beings out there — smart, capable of communication, and so forth. They ain’t us.

    2. Being made in God’s image gives man dignity but also duty. We are to be like Jesus, the God-man (Romans 8:29). We are to make wise use of the incredible resources given to us by the Light and Life of the world (Genesis 1:27). We are to call all men into new life in Christ.

    3. How humble we should be before our God! Not only has He imbued us with His image, He became a man and, on the cross, experienced the punishment for sin that we so well deserve. “What is man, that You are mindful of him?” asked the David so long ago (Psalm 8:2). We are less than fractions of a single pixel in terms of our size in the universe but are so precious to the Lord Who made us that He Himself offers us the redemption He alone can provide.

    Scientists will debate whether Fermi’s Paradox is now a dead letter or a live question is going to be debated for years to come. But followers of Jesus already know the answers that an intelligent and informed faith alone can provide.

    We are not alone in the universe. An eternal God Who cannot be contained in the space He created is everywhere. And if you know His Son, He lives in you.




    This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity (futility) of their mind, having the understanding darkened...
    (Ephesians 4:17-18)

    Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly...
    (Psalm 1)

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    Few things are more awe inspiring than looking through a telescope to places your natural eyesight cannot see in the night sky. And just to think we may be the only ones here, made in God's image, as if he did all of this for us and Him.

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    Psalm 8:3-8
    “When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained; What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him? For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour. Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; thou hast put all things under his feet: All sheep and oxen, yea, and the beasts of the field; The fowl of the air, and the fish of the sea, and whatsoever passeth through the paths of the seas. O Lord our Lord, how excellent is thy name in all the earth!”
    **Psalms‬ *8:3-9‬ *KJV‬‬
    http://bible.com/1/psa.8.3-9.kjv

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    Psalm 8:3-8
    “When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained; What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him? For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour. Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; thou hast put all things under his feet: All sheep and oxen, yea, and the beasts of the field; The fowl of the air, and the fish of the sea, and whatsoever passeth through the paths of the seas. O Lord our Lord, how excellent is thy name in all the earth!”
    **Psalms‬ *8:3-9‬ *KJV‬‬
    http://bible.com/1/psa.8.3-9.kjv
    The emboldened portion, didnt John Glenn quote this when he orbited earth?

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    I am fairly sure that there are alien life forms in left wing politics

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    I did a video about this a while back.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQcggwYcOhI

    Isaiah 45:18 says "For this is what the LORD says-- God is the Creator of the heavens. He formed the earth and made it. He established it; He did not create it to be empty, but formed it to be inhabited--" I am Yahweh, and there is no other."

    God formed the earth to be inhabited. While that doesn't exclude the possibility of life on other planets, it does imply that Earth is uniquely designed to support life. The idea that intelligent life exists on other planets is based on the theory of evolution. If life can evolve from basic elements on Earth then there are no doubt thousands of planets like earth in our galaxy that are capable of supporting life where evolution would probably occur, given enough time and luck. That would make sense if life on Earth evolved from non-life, but it didn't. Life was CREATED from non-life by the creator of the universe, so unless He had some purpose in creating life on other planets (which He said nothing about in His Word) I would have to conclude that we are indeed alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jew and Greek View Post
    I did a video about this a while back.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQcggwYcOhI

    Isaiah 45:18 says "For this is what the LORD says-- God is the Creator of the heavens. He formed the earth and made it. He established it; He did not create it to be empty, but formed it to be inhabited--" I am Yahweh, and there is no other."

    God formed the earth to be inhabited. While that doesn't exclude the possibility of life on other planets, it does imply that Earth is uniquely designed to support life. The idea that intelligent life exists on other planets is based on the theory of evolution. If life can evolve from basic elements on Earth then there are no doubt thousands of planets like earth in our galaxy that are capable of supporting life where evolution would probably occur, given enough time and luck. That would make sense if life on Earth evolved from non-life, but it didn't. Life was CREATED from non-life by the creator of the universe, so unless He had some purpose in creating life on other planets (which He said nothing about in His Word) I would have to conclude that we are indeed alone.
    God designed the Earth to support life and the Word doesn't mention any other planets that he designed to support life. Logically speaking it does not follow that God did not design any other planets to support life. Technically that would amount to an assumption based on an absence of evidence. Your conclusion that he didn't most probably amounts to the truth anyway but it doesn't follow from what you presented. As long as we have no indication that angels or demons in their bodily state exist or have existed on other planets in our universe, it remains a strong assumption. One would assume that God would give us an indication if it had been so.

    Many Christians believe that the "extraterrestrials" that people claim to have encountered are in fact fallen angels. They may appear to originate from other planets in this Universe but the truth is probably that they originate from the spiritual dimension and not from this Universe at all.

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    So essentially you agree with me, except that you don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jew and Greek View Post
    So essentially you agree with me, except that you don't.
    What I said throughout is that you are probably right but we cannot be sure based on scripture. Very hypothetically the mentioned fallen angels gone "extraterrestrials" could originate from somewhere else in the Universe then travel here through the spiritual dimension, we don't know for sure. That avenue isn't closed off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jew and Greek View Post
    So essentially you agree with me, except that you don't.
    I can see you haven't debated Colonel

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