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    Initiative to break California into 3 states to go on November ballot

    CNN)An initiative that would divide California into three separate states qualified Tuesday to appear on the ballot in November's general election.

    Californians will vote whether to separate into three states: California, Northern California and Southern California -- subject to approval by US Congress.

    The proposal by venture capitalist, Tim Draper to break up California in a campaign called "Cal 3," received more than 402,468 valid signatures -- surpassing the amount required by state law.

    California Secretary of State Alex Padilla will certify the initiative as qualified for the November 6th ballot on June 28.

    Draper has said that partitioning California into three states would allow regional communities to make better and more sensible decisions for their citizens to address the state's most pressing issues, including the school systems, high taxes, deteriorating infrastructure and strained government.

    "The California state government isn't too big to fail, because it is already failing its citizens in so many crucial ways," Citizens for Cal 3 campaign spokeswoman Peggy Grande said in a Tuesday statement. "The reality is that for an overmatched, overstretched and overwrought state-government structure...

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/13/us/ca...lot/index.html

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    Can California possibly get more complicated??

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    I thought the plan to break it up into 6 separate states was even better. We would at least get a couple of conservative states that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezekiel 33 View Post
    I thought the plan to break it up into 6 separate states was even better. We would at least get a couple of conservative states that way.
    Even 3 could work tho...too many conservatives there are fed up with the ultra left lunacy. Question is would one of those areas actually have a conservative majority?

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    The liberals would want to fudge more electoral values out of this somehow.

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    Even if this passes the vote (which it won't) It's still up to the Federal Government to allow it to happen, (which they won't)

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    Guys.. seriously, this will NEVER, EVER happen. This sort of thing cycles around every now and again..
    We laugh and laugh.

    As Sue points out, there is no way it will ever get by congress.

    (although.. years ago there was a break to make Jefferson -- a separate state from part of northern Ca.. It has passed part of congress.
    But, WWII happened... oh well..)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Femme* View Post
    Guys.. seriously, this will NEVER, EVER happen. This sort of thing cycles around every now and again..
    We laugh and laugh.

    As Sue points out, there is no way it will ever get by congress.

    (although.. years ago there was a break to make Jefferson -- a separate state from part of northern Ca.. It has passed part of congress.
    But, WWII happened... oh well..)
    The mentioned initiative looks kind of dumb. There's still one part that's called California which means that people would be likely to confuse that with the old and much larger California. North, West and South California would have made sense.

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    The mentioned initiative looks kind of dumb. There's still one part that's called California which means that people would be likely to confuse that with the old and much larger California. North, West and South California would have made sense.
    no, it wouldn't have.

    it's ridiculous.. and never, ever going to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Femme* View Post
    no, it wouldn't have.

    it's ridiculous.. and never, ever going to happen.
    What would you like the three areas to be called if you had to choose ?

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