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    3D "carbon copy" of Jesus created from Shroud of Turin

    -This statue is the three-dimensional representation in actual size of the Man of the Shroud, created following the precise measurements taken from the cloth in which the body of Christ was wrapped after the crucifixion," explains Giulio Fanti, teacher of mechanical and thermal measurements at the University of Padua, who studies the Shroud. Based on his measurements, the professor has created a "carbon copy" in 3D which, he claims, allows him to affirm that these are the true features of the crucified Christ.

    Through the study and three-dimensional projection of the figure, Fanti was also able to count the numerous wounds on the body of the man of the Shroud:

    "On the Shroud," the professor explains, "I counted 370 wounds from the flagellation, without taking into account the wounds on his sides, which the Shroud doesn't show because it only enveloped the back and front of the body. We can therefore hypothesize a total of at least 600 blows. In addition, the three-dimensional reconstruction has made it possible to discover that at the moment of his death, the man of the Shroud sagged down towards the right, because his right shoulder was dislocated so seriously as to injure the nerves..."

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    https://aleteia.org/2018/03/28/this-...roud-of-turin/

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    interesting...didn't read but why would his head be up...did they traditionally bury with head elevated? I do not find it hard to believe His cover would be retrieved but since there is no mention in scripture this was done...so I keep this in the I don't know file...

    Also, I wonder how this image compares to the girl's painting that supposedly matched that of the ;little boy who went to Heaven? Can't think of their names at them moment...too early..

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    Interesting:

    "On the Shroud," the professor explains, "I counted 370 wounds from the flagellation, without taking into account the wounds on his sides, which the Shroud doesn't show because it only enveloped the back and front of the body. We can therefore hypothesize a total of at least 600 blows. In addition, the three-dimensional reconstruction has made it possible to discover that at the moment of his death, the man of the Shroud sagged down towards the right, because his right shoulder was dislocated so seriously as to injure the nerves."

    But regarding this:

    "According to our studies, Jesus was a man of extraordinary beauty. Long-limbed, but very robust, he was nearly 5 ft. 11 in. tall, whereas the average height at the time was around 5 ft. 5 in. And he had a regal and majestic expression." (Vatican Insider)

    According to what studies? This comes from that place that wants Jesus as a man to be the most inspiring image of a man we could think of. Yet Isaiah 53:2,3 (NIV) says:

    2 He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him,
    nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.
    3 He was despised and rejected by mankind,
    a man of suffering, and familiar with pain.
    Like one from whom people hide their faces
    he was despised, and we held him in low esteem.

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    Just to comment on this part only...

    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post

    ....... he was nearly 5 ft. 11 in. tall, whereas the average height at the time was around 5 ft. 5 in. .....

    From a heresy hunter website, but I remember KH telling one of the visions he had and remembered that Hagin said He was tall.

    Hagin claimed that of the eight times Jesus appeared to him, seven times Jesus was barefoot; the other time Jesus was wearing Roman sandals, and came into Hagin's room, sat down by his bedside, and talked with him for about 30 minutes. During that time, Jesus allegedly taught Hagin how to be led by the inner witness of the Holy Spirit. Hagin described Jesus as 5'11" tall and weighing about 180 pounds.




    This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity (futility) of their mind, having the understanding darkened...
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    Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly...
    (Psalm 1)

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    According to the Bible, Jesus was marred beyond recognition. The shroud has been dated to the 14th century or thereabout. My guess is that someone found a beautiful corpse, cut the hair and beard to their liking, made the appropriate wounds then shrouded the corpse for a while, applying some technique to make an imprint of the whole thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    According to the Bible, Jesus was marred beyond recognition. The shroud has been dated to the 14th century or thereabout. My guess is that someone found a beautiful corpse, cut the hair and beard to their liking, made the appropriate wounds then shrouded the corpse for a while, applying some technique to make an imprint of the whole thing.
    That definitely could have happened. But that image on the cloth came with '3D encoding' that allowed them to do 3D images of the shroud many years before they made the model. So how does someone do that, especially with 14th century technology?

    Having said that, I don't know if it's Jesus or not. Things like what I said above keep my jury out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    That definitely could have happened. But that image on the cloth came with '3D encoding' that allowed them to do 3D images of the shroud many years before they made the model. So how does someone do that, especially with 14th century technology?

    Having said that, I don't know if it's Jesus or not. Things like what I said above keep my jury out.
    What difference would it make to the technicalities if it was a medieval corpse instead of Jesus' corpse ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    What difference would it make to the technicalities if it was a medieval corpse instead of Jesus' corpse ?
    Well, one could see that image being made like a photographic negative with the blast of light made when Jesus was raised from the dead. And supernatural encoding embedded to make 3D reliefs out of it, etc. Those technicalities wouldn't be present with a medieval corpse. But, if it's not 'real', then how was it done with the technology of the day?

    Also as a case against, my understanding is that the Jews followed Egyptian type embalming methods (carried over from their time there) and Jesus wouldn't have been lying in the tomb in that manner with just a cloth folded over him when he was raised. Also if that's how he was covered then why would their be an extra napkin laid over his face that they saw lying there when they entered? That's not embalmed the way they did it. So there are things against it being Him, things for it being Him. Like I said, I have no idea. If I would lean either way it would be toward not just due to the probability of that actually existing and surviving this long.

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    I don't think it's worth it to place much emphasis on that relic, whatever it is. I don't know how they would have managed that in the 14th century but sometimes questions like that have simple answers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GodismyJudge View Post
    Just to comment on this part only...



    From a heresy hunter website, but I remember KH telling one of the visions he had and remembered that Hagin said He was tall.

    Hagin claimed that of the eight times Jesus appeared to him, seven times Jesus was barefoot; the other time Jesus was wearing Roman sandals, and came into Hagin’s room, sat down by his bedside, and talked with him for about 30 minutes. During that time, Jesus allegedly taught Hagin how to be led by the inner witness of the Holy Spirit. Hagin described Jesus as 5’11” tall and weighing about 180 pounds.
    According to the gospels Jesus successfully blended in with the crowds to get away from difficult people. That wouldn't have worked if he was six inches taller than everyone else. When people see visions of Jesus he may not look exactly like he looked when he walked the Earth. Think of how different he looked during his transfiguration and in the book of Revelation.

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