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    Artificial intelligence getting somewhere

    https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...lay-four-hours

    The program is teaching itself how to play various games including chess in a few hours based only on the rules and beats everyone and everything after that. I'm wondering if the raw intelligence involved will be able to outdo human beings in other areas and then if we will be stupid enough to let that intelligence be in charge. Which equals a future robot hell.

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    More fakery.

    Google’s artificial intelligence sibling DeepMind repurposes Go-playing AI to conquer chess and shogi without aid of human knowledge
    no.

    It doesn't surprise me that Google is foisting these lies upon us with the help of a compliant, compromised media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    More fakery.



    no.

    It doesn't surprise me that Google is foisting these lies upon us with the help of a compliant, compromised media.
    It's supposedly programmed to figure out how to win games based on the rules and nothing more than the rules. Someone programmed it of course, the question is what happens when a clever program aided by enormous computing power is allowed to be in charge because it is supposedly smarter than its subjects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    It's supposedly programmed to figure out how to win games based on the rules and nothing more than the rules. Someone programmed it of course, the question is what happens when a clever program aided by enormous computing power is allowed to be in charge because it is supposedly smarter than its subjects.
    >how to win games based on the rules and nothing more than the rules

    It was programmed to play itself, a sort of "self-learning" contraption. By playing itself it "learned" how to win, it's just computation, nothing new there.

    >the question is what happens when a clever program aided by enormous computing power is allowed to be in charge because it is supposedly smarter than its subjects.

    Bad question, it assumes such things exist (they don't). It is part of the deception. I posted something similar earlier (which spy device do you prefer?), the notion of spying and its ramifications are not mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...lay-four-hours

    The program is teaching itself how to play various games including chess in a few hours based only on the rules and beats everyone and everything after that. I'm wondering if the raw intelligence involved will be able to outdo human beings in other areas and then if we will be stupid enough to let that intelligence be in charge. Which equals a future robot hell.
    Yes, there is a future robot hell. And there is no need to wait for the future, they are here now. Military robots, burger flipping robots, bellhop robots, even companion and sex robots. The artificial life that is embedded in the coming new generation of androids and cyborgs will produce the dreaded future "image of the beast".
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    AI is now so complex its creators can’t trust why it makes decisions
    Written by Dave Gershgorn
    December 07, 2017
    https://qz.com/1146753/ai-is-now-so-...YPL&yptr=yahoo

    Artificial intelligence is seeping into every nook and cranny of modern life. AI might tag your friends in photos on Facebook or choose what you see on Instagram, but materials scientists and NASA researchers are also beginning to use the technology for scientific discovery and space exploration.

    But there’s a core problem with this technology, whether it’s being used in social media or for the Mars rover: The programmers that built it don’t know why AI makes one decision over another.

    Modern artificial intelligence is still new. Big tech companies have only ramped up investment and research in the last five years, after a decades-old theory was shown to finally work in 2012. Inspired by the human brain, an artificial neural network relied on layers of thousands to millions of tiny connections between “neurons” or little clusters of mathematic computation, like the connections of neurons in the brain. But that software architecture came with a trade-off: Since the changes throughout those millions of connections were so complex and minute, researchers aren’t able to exactly determine what is happening. They just get an output that works....



    ...As these artificial neural networks are starting to be used in law enforcement, healthcare, scientific research, and determining which news you see on Facebook, researchers are saying there’s a problem with what some have called AI’s “black box.” Previous research has shown that algorithms amplify biases in the data from which they learn, and make inadvertent connections between ideas.....



    ...“As machine learning becomes more prevalent in society
    —and the stakes keep getting higher and higher—people are beginning to realize that we can’t treat these systems as infallible and impartial black boxes,” Hanna Wallach, a senior researcher at Microsoft and speaker at the conference, tells Quartz in an email. “We need to understand what’s going on inside them and how they are being used.”...


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    Quote Originally Posted by GodismyJudge View Post

    AI is now so complex its creators can’t trust why it makes decisions
    Written by Dave Gershgorn
    December 07, 2017
    https://qz.com/1146753/ai-is-now-so-...YPL&yptr=yahoo

    Artificial intelligence is seeping into every nook and cranny of modern life. AI might tag your friends in photos on Facebook or choose what you see on Instagram, but materials scientists and NASA researchers are also beginning to use the technology for scientific discovery and space exploration.

    But there’s a core problem with this technology, whether it’s being used in social media or for the Mars rover: The programmers that built it don’t know why AI makes one decision over another.

    Modern artificial intelligence is still new. Big tech companies have only ramped up investment and research in the last five years, after a decades-old theory was shown to finally work in 2012. Inspired by the human brain, an artificial neural network relied on layers of thousands to millions of tiny connections between “neurons” or little clusters of mathematic computation, like the connections of neurons in the brain. But that software architecture came with a trade-off: Since the changes throughout those millions of connections were so complex and minute, researchers aren’t able to exactly determine what is happening. They just get an output that works....



    ...As these artificial neural networks are starting to be used in law enforcement, healthcare, scientific research, and determining which news you see on Facebook, researchers are saying there’s a problem with what some have called AI’s “black box.” Previous research has shown that algorithms amplify biases in the data from which they learn, and make inadvertent connections between ideas.....



    ...“As machine learning becomes more prevalent in society
    —and the stakes keep getting higher and higher—people are beginning to realize that we can’t treat these systems as infallible and impartial black boxes,” Hanna Wallach, a senior researcher at Microsoft and speaker at the conference, tells Quartz in an email. “We need to understand what’s going on inside them and how they are being used.”...


    They are floating the "black box" thing as cover, pre-emptive excuse.

    The high end of the tech industry is probably more degenerate than Hollywood. Pathological liars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    They are floating the "black box" thing as cover, pre-emptive excuse.

    The high end of the tech industry is probably more degenerate than Hollywood. Pathological liars.
    No, they actually do not understand how some of these things work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GodismyJudge View Post
    No, they actually do not understand how some of these things work.
    They want you to believe that. Mission accomplished.

    It's just cover for when things go wrong (they get caught).

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    They want you to believe that. Mission accomplished.

    It's just cover for when things go wrong (they get caught).
    Whatever you think....







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