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    Quote Originally Posted by FaithfulOne View Post
    I agree...but I've also seen women with dresses on down to their ankles, hair in a bun and no makeup on, still operating out of a lustful and fleshly spirit.

    Again, not disagreeing or arguing, but just presenting the other ditch
    I agree with you, Lorrie.

    There is no ONE kind of woman who gets raped. Rape is in the hearts of men, to take what they want. It's violence, period, against children, women of ALL ages and other men. Rape is used as genocide in war torn countries. Rape is done on college campuses and drugs are used to incapacitate their prey.

    If it's not in the heart of the man, he WILL NOT ACT, no matter how the woman is dressed, OR NOT DRESSED. If rape is not in the heart of the man, he will not rape even if the woman is naked.

    For the record, I may not dress particularly provocatively, but I go out of my way to look attractive. I wash and do my hair every day, I put on make up and I dress as nicely as I can. If some man want's to rape me for that, he has a real problem.

    You all who are agreeing with Angela Lansbury need to give your heads a shake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romans828 View Post
    As the old Mothers say: "If it's not for sale, don't put it on the shelf!"

    I remember! Those are my sentiments exactly!
    When your praise match your prayers, the answer will come.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FaithfulOne View Post
    I just wonder what is going on in their heads.
    Step inside their head for a breath of fresh air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A.J. View Post
    I agree with you, Lorrie.

    There is no ONE kind of woman who gets raped. Rape is in the hearts of men, to take what they want. It's violence, period, against children, women of ALL ages and other men. Rape is used as genocide in war torn countries. Rape is done on college campuses and drugs are used to incapacitate their prey.

    If it's not in the heart of the man, he WILL NOT ACT, no matter how the woman is dressed, OR NOT DRESSED. If rape is not in the heart of the man, he will not rape even if the woman is naked.

    For the record, I may not dress particularly provocatively, but I go out of my way to look attractive. I wash and do my hair every day, I put on make up and I dress as nicely as I can. If some man want's to rape me for that, he has a real problem.

    You all who are agreeing with Angela Lansbury need to give your heads a shake.
    I can see that side too Sharie. Bottom line is, that there are men who do become aroused looking at a woman who is skimpily dressed, who refuse to control their lust. As women we know this, but there are still many who will dress provocatively to get a man’s attention.

    My position is not to present myself in a manner that would cause a man to pay the wrong kind of attention to me. I do see your side however, for SOME men, it doesn’t matter what a woman is wearing, a rapist is a rapist and he will rape a fully covered woman as quick as he will a half-naked one.
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    Step inside their head for a breath of fresh air.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FaithfulOne View Post
    ??
    Didn't you ask what is going on inside their head? I told you. Nothing. It's empty. Full of air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valiant Woman View Post
    I can see that side too Sharie. Bottom line is, that there are men who do become aroused looking at a woman who is skimpily dressed, who refuse to control their lust. As women we know this, but there are still many who will dress provocatively to get a man’s attention.

    My position is not to present myself in a manner that would cause a man to pay the wrong kind of attention to me. I do see your side however, for SOME men, it doesn’t matter what a woman is wearing, a rapist is a rapist and he will rape a fully covered woman as quick as he will a half-naked one.
    Thanks ValW but getting aroused while looking at a woman and planning a rape are very different. Many of the men in the news right now were planners. True rapists. Sometimes, yes, a man will push too far to get what he wants, but that means he had been planning it somewhere in his mind and heart long before he allows himself to do it. Maybe the men on the forum can tell us if there's EVER a point when a man simply can't help himself?

    It was actually my chiropractor, many years ago, who told me that a man will not act on that which he didn't already have inside of him. (Can't remember his exact words, but that was the gist of it.) I was telling him about a former chiropractor who had touched, repeatedly, me, my sisters and many other women, inappropriately. I told my parents, as I was underage at the time, and they dismissed it with, "oh, that's just his way." ummmm no, he was a pervert. Not a rapist, but took advantage of woman after woman after woman in his position of power. Eventually, I got to tell my story in a police report and the officer who took my statement called him a scoundrel. My pastor at the time said it's up to us to forgive, but there are consequences to our actions and for that man, it was time to face his. He had to face a judge in a public court room... Sexual misconduct was in his heart. It was planned and acted on.

    I agree about the way women dress nowadays that "fashion" has crossed lines that are just downright inappropriate but the stories on these guys in Hollywood go back so far, it has nothing to do with how the women dressed. And it still has nothing to do with how we dress. It's power, control and violence.

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    Male sexual urges are incredibly strong especially once the process has started and has been partially implemented by a woman who is flirting.

    That is why a women dressing provocatively can be a trigger for men.

    Men still have to be responsible for their actions and there is no excuse to harass a women sexually.
    There is never a reason for rape it is always a despicable crime.
    Men must learn to exercise self control in sexual areas.


    I disagree with men being charged with rape because the woman at first gave consent and then part way through she says no and the man finishes the act.
    I don't consider that rape as she was a willing person at the beginning and it should come under some other category.

    The current sex obsessed culture damages both men and women and ruins God's plan for sex and we are reaping untold misery

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    When I worked for the fed. govt., we were taught in sexual harassment class the definition is behavior that makes you uncomfortable. That was in the 80's. I have no idea what they teach now. One woman tried to file a complaint of s.h. because a man told her her hair looked nice one day. The man was always a perfect gentleman and she eventually withdrew her accusation. She said she only did it because the man reminded her of her father. The woman's hair always looked terrible and on the day in question, she was wearing a wig. She was also quite mentally ill and didn't work there long.

    I don't read many of the articles, but a lot of what I have read falls in the wide spectrum of "uncomfortable". Rape of course is a totally different matter imo. I remember that one of the early Cosby allegations I heard was from a woman who was quite young at the time of the incident and it took place at the Playboy Mansion. You would have to be extremely naive to think you could hang out there and not expect some sort of unsavory goings on there. Did she think she was going to Bible class?

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    something that might be getting lost here is that rape isn't necessarily about sex, but about control and domination.

    And, I also agree that how a woman dresses etc can show her character.

    this whole thing is a lot more complicated than the "gee, 20+ years ago this guy touched me" sort of thing.

    and, as was pointed out in another article, the depravity that is at the core of the "entertainment" world is just coming to the surface, it's been there all along. Not to mention the politics, corporate world too.

    But, I also heard Pamela Anderson made a comment to the effect, what do you think is going to happen when you agree to go to a hotel room with a guy? Business meetings don't take place there.
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