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    Kim Davis released, but judge bars her from withholding marriage licenses

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/08/politi...cky/index.html

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    That sounds like they temporarily made her a political prisoner, a true sign of a totalitarian or semi-totalitarian regime.

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    Seems like a reasonable accommodation: Mrs. Davis keeps her job while others in her office issue the marriage licenses.

    It seems that Mrs. Davis was particularly concerned about the marriage licenses being issued with her name on them, because the presence of her name would imply that she personally approves of the marriage. This accommodation removes that issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by njtom View Post
    Seems like a reasonable accommodation: Mrs. Davis keeps her job while others in her office issue the marriage licenses.

    It seems that Mrs. Davis was particularly concerned about the marriage licenses being issued with her name on them, because the presence of her name would imply that she personally approves of the marriage. This accommodation removes that issue.
    I did not see that...has the judge's order changed? Yesterday the judge ordered her to continue issuing them or at least signing off on them..the attorney stated her name would still be required even though the judge could have changed that but chose not to...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quest View Post
    I did not see that...has the judge's order changed? Yesterday the judge ordered her to continue issuing them or at least signing off on them..the attorney stated her name would still be required even though the judge could have changed that but chose not to...
    I was reading the following article:

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    U.S. District Judge David Bunning ordered that Davis be released from jail -- five days after he sent her there -- saying he was satisfied that her deputies fulfilled their obligations to give marriage licenses to same-sex couples in her absence.

    But Bunning's new order says Davis cannot interfere with her deputies issuing marriage licenses to all legally eligible couples.
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    http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/08/politi...iage-kentucky/

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    Something interesting to know bout this whole situation.....
    1. Kentucky state law defines marriage as the union between man and woman.
    2. Only CONGRESS can pass laws, by order of the US Constitution.
    3. By the Supreme Court ordering Kim(by law) to issue licence to gay couples, the Supreme Court is breaking the law.
    4. The Judge who ordered her to issue the license, he too broke the law.

    Now as far as her performing her job, I think she is doing exactly what she signed up for. She is following her convictions, and also obeying Kentucky State law.
    Should she step down or resign, no she should not. That's exactly what the left wing libs wants us to do. If we don't stand for the cause of Christ, the rocks will cry out in our place. I certainly don't want rocks crying out in my place;
    But if she hasn't broken any actual laws, why should she Step down or resign?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy View Post
    Something interesting to know bout this whole situation.....
    1. Kentucky state law defines marriage as the union between man and woman.
    2. Only CONGRESS can pass laws, by order of the US Constitution.
    3. By the Supreme Court ordering Kim(by law) to issue licence to gay couples, the Supreme Court is breaking the law.
    4. The Judge who ordered her to issue the license, he too broke the law.

    Now as far as her performing her job, I think she is doing exactly what she signed up for. She is following her convictions, and also obeying Kentucky State law.
    Should she step down or resign, no she should not. That's exactly what the left wing libs wants us to do. If we don't stand for the cause of Christ, the rocks will cry out in our place. I certainly don't want rocks crying out in my place;
    But if she hasn't broken any actual laws, why should she Step down or resign?
    The government of the United States is supposed to adjust itself internally by way of the three branches, the judiciary, the executive and the legislative. Isn't that right ? In addition the United States employs the system of common law which means the following according to the wikipedia article :

    "American judges, like common law judges elsewhere, not only apply the law, they also make the law, to the extent that their decisions in the cases before them become precedent for decisions in future cases"

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    So you are saying a judge can make any law they want? They are to uphold the already established laws. Either way you look at it, the judge broke the law, and did not uphold his sworn oath. He should step down and resign in my opinion. but by the Constitution, a state judge CANNOT make the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy View Post
    So you are saying a judge can make any law they want? They are to uphold the already established laws. Either way you look at it, the judge broke the law, and did not uphold his sworn oath. He should step down and resign in my opinion. but by the Constitution, a state judge CANNOT make the law.
    I don't know or understand the details and especially not pertaining to this matter, that's why I'm asking. There must be some logic to what they are doing though, it can't simply be a matter of breaking the law at will.

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    The big picture issue is Monarchy versus Republic form of government. Issuing edicts from DC is getting old and the people (some) want their rights restored.

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