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    Unhappy Ontario Passes Totalitarian Bill Allowing Govt to take Kids from Christian Homes

    TORONTO, June 1, 2017 (LifeSiteNews) — Ontario's Kathleen Wynne Liberals have passed what critics describe as "totalitarian" Bill 89 by a vote of 63 to 23 on the last day before Queen's Park adjourns for the summer.

    Pro-family advocates warn Bill 89 gives the state more power to seize children from families that oppose the LGBTQI and gender ideology agenda, and allows government agencies to effectively ban couples who disagree with that agenda from fostering or adopting children.

    Bill 89, or the Supporting Children, Youth and Families Act, 2017, repeals and replaces the former Child and Family Services Act that governs child protection services, and adoption and foster care services.

    It adds "gender identity" and "gender expression" as factors to be considered "in the best interests of the child."

    At the same time, it deletes the religious faith in which the parents are raising the child as a factor to be considered, and mandates child protection services consider only the child's own "creed" or "religion" when assessing the best interests of the child.

    "With the passage of Bill 89, we've entered an era of totalitarian power by the state, such as never witnessed before in Canada's history," says Jack Fonseca, senior political strategist for Campaign Life Coalition.

    "Make no mistake, Bill 89 is a grave threat to Christians and all people of faith who have children, or who hope to grow their family through adoption."

    "Disappointed as I am with this result, I am not surprised," commented Tanya Granic Allen, president of Parents As First Educators (PAFE). "The Kathleen Wynne Liberals have for years been pursuing their anti-parent and anti-family agenda and Bill 89 is the latest installment."

    Conservative MPPs present at Queen's Park for the vote opposed the bill, which was in stark contrast to their position at second reading in March, when 83 of Ontario's 107 MPPs passed Bill 89 unanimously.

    The Conservatives who voted June 1 against Bill 89 included Monte McNaughton, Jeff Yurek, Bob Bailey, Gila Martow, Todd Smith, Michael Harris, and Steve Clark.

    PC leader Patrick Brown was not in the house for the vote.

    Trillium Party MPP Jack MacLaren also voted against the bill.

    A source present at a Tory caucus meeting two weeks ago told LifeSiteNews the Conservative members were swayed by "three or four" MPPs who said they could not in conscience vote for what the source described as a bill that is "fundamentally and morally wrong."

    The PC caucus, now at 28 members, thereupon decided to vote as a block against Bill 89, according to the source.

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    There has got to be something that can be done about that. That really is ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    There has got to be something that can be done about that. That really is ridiculous.
    In other countries like Holland they are already practicing euthanasia of undesirables, specifically psychiatric patients that are deemed difficult. The law mentioned in this thread may or may not be used extensively but the point is that it can be, in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    There has got to be something that can be done about that. That really is ridiculous.
    Well, first of all, it's Ontario. Probably the most liberal province in Canada, except for the west coast and has the largest population (over 13M, about 1/3 of Canada), as a province.

    Premier Kathleen Wynne is the first female premier of Ontario, the first openly gay head of government in Canada and took office in 2013. It's been downhill ever since. The elementary school sex ed that they put in place was developed by a man who is now a convicted pedophile... did they withdraw the curriculum? Nope.

    People are so freekin scared of being labeled homophobic that they just don't challenge the agenda. I really, really hope that she's defeated in the next provincial election.

    I guess my question to these people would be "What about Muslims? They are more anti-LGBTQ whatever than any Christian... will they be allowed to adopt and foster?" I reckon I know the answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    There has got to be something that can be done about that. That really is ridiculous.
    There is.

    TORONTO, June 5, 2017 (LifeSiteNews) — LifeSiteNews has launched a petition urging the Ontario government to repeal a new bill that allows children to be seized from Christian parents who oppose the LGBT agenda.

    The bill, described as "totalitarian" by pro-family critics, passed last week by a vote of 63 to 23.

    In addition to granting the state power to seize children from families that oppose the LGBTQI and gender ideology agenda, the bill allows government agencies to effectively ban couples who disagree with that agenda from fostering or adopting children.

    "Make no mistake, Bill 89 is a grave threat to Christians and all people of faith who have children, or who hope to grow their family through adoption," says Jack Fonseca, senior political strategist for Campaign Life Coalition.

    "This is a direct hit against parental authority," echoed Tanya Granic Allen, executive director of Parents As First Educators (PAFE), which along with the Association for Reformed Political Action (ARPA) has been at the forefront of lobbying against the bill.

    Bill 89, or the Supporting Children, Youth and Families Act, 2017, repeals and replaces the former Child and Family Services Act that governs child protection services, and adoption and foster care services.

    It adds "gender identity" and "gender expression" as factors to be considered "in the best interests of the child."

    At the same time, it deletes the religious faith in which the parents are raising the child as a factor to be considered, and mandates child protection services consider only the child's own "creed" or "religion" when assessing the best interests of the child.

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    I wonder how long that term will be eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valiant Woman View Post
    In addition to granting the state power to seize children from families that oppose the LGBTQI and gender ideology agenda, the bill allows government agencies to effectively ban couples who disagree with that agenda from fostering or adopting children.
    I mean that is so over the top it almost seems like a fake news story. It boggles my mind that there is no outrage about this and that it would actually be allowed to vote on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    I mean that is so over the top it almost seems like a fake news story. It boggles my mind that there is no outrage about this and that it would actually be allowed to vote on.
    I agree. Well, there certainly be outrage here in America, and many liberal politicians wouldn't touch it lest they lose the few Christian voters they do have.
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