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    Texas elector resigns instead of voting for Trump

    Could someone explain his reasoning to me please...I'm serious...

    http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/...r-donald-trump

    A Republican elector from Texas says he is resigning his position instead of casting his vote for Donald Trump, calling the Electoral College "corrupted from its original intent" and saying voting for the president-elect would "bring dishonor to God."


    Art Sisneros was considering in August the possibility of becoming a so-called faithless elector, meaning he would refuse to vote for Trump if the GOP candidate won the Lone Star State and its 38 electoral votes in November.


    In a Saturday blog post on his website, Sisneros said he had decided he was not comfortable defying his pledge to vote for his party's nominee, but neither could he cast his vote for Trump.

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    Trump isn't a real Republican ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FaithfulOne View Post
    Could someone explain his reasoning to me please.

    Texas Republican Elector Resigns to Avoid Voting Trump
    By Liberty McArtor Published on November 28, 2016
    https://stream.org/texas-republican-...-voting-trump/

    A Texas Republican elector announced Saturday his decision to resign, concluding that to vote for Trump “would bring dishonor to God.”

    In a lengthy blog post, Art Sisneros explored the original intent of the Electoral College, the difference between a democracy and a republic, and explained his conscientious objection to voting for President-elect Donald Trump.

    He writes:


    I do not see how Donald Trump is biblically [sic] qualified to serve in the office of the Presidency. Of the hundreds of angry messages that I have received, not one has made a convincing case from scripture otherwise. If Trump is not qualified and my role, both morally and historically, as an elected official is to vote my conscience, then I can not and will not vote for Donald Trump for President. I believe voting for Trump would bring dishonor to God.

    Sisneros said he ultimately arrived at the decision to resign rather than become a “faithless elector” by voting for another candidate. Sisneros claimed that electors are supposed to represent the best interest of the people, and, “It is my conviction that the greatest danger to my district is not a Hillary or Trump Presidency, but it is the judgement of God.”...
    This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity (futility) of their mind, having the understanding darkened...
    (Ephesians 4:17-18)

    Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly...
    (Psalm 1)

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    it never fails to amaze me how some people think.. or would that be DON'T think.

    This individual is upset about Trump being the president because he's not "Biblically qualified".. oh.. sure, because Hillary so IS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FaithfulOne View Post
    Could someone explain his reasoning to me please...I'm serious...

    http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/...r-donald-trump

    A Republican elector from Texas says he is resigning his position instead of casting his vote for Donald Trump, calling the Electoral College "corrupted from its original intent" and saying voting for the president-elect would "bring dishonor to God."


    Art Sisneros was considering in August the possibility of becoming a so-called faithless elector, meaning he would refuse to vote for Trump if the GOP candidate won the Lone Star State and its 38 electoral votes in November.


    In a Saturday blog post on his website, Sisneros said he had decided he was not comfortable defying his pledge to vote for his party's nominee, but neither could he cast his vote for Trump.
    A strong bravo to this man, who takes his Christian beliefs seriously! What a rare thing these days! Note that he did not say he would switch his vote to Clinton. He simply said he would resign his position rather than vote for Trump as a matter of conscience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by njtom View Post
    A strong bravo to this man, who takes his Christian beliefs seriously! What a rare thing these days! Note that he did not say he would switch his vote to Clinton. He simply said he would resign his position rather than vote for Trump as a matter of conscience.
    Amen and kudos!

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    If the guy is that conflicted he should not have taken the job. The responsibilities of an elector are quite simple.

    His blog is here:

    https://theblessedpath.com/

    ramblin man..

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    I sincerely hope that the Electoral College elects Pence rather than Trump. Although I disagree with some of Pence's positions, I believe he is a man of integrity and high moral values. Trump seems to me to be the exact opposite.

    Federalist paper 68 makes clear that the founders intended that the electoral college would serve to protect the Republic from a demagogue.

    It was also peculiarly desirable to afford as little opportunity as possible to tumult and disorder. This evil was not least to be dreaded in the election of a magistrate, who was to have so important an agency in the administration of the government as the President of the United States. But the precautions which have been so happily concerted in the system under consideration, promise an effectual security against this mischief. The choice of SEVERAL, to form an intermediate body of electors, will be much less apt to convulse the community with any extraordinary or violent movements, than the choice of ONE who was himself to be the final object of the public wishes. And as the electors, chosen in each State, are to assemble and vote in the State in which they are chosen, this detached and divided situation will expose them much less to heats and ferments, which might be communicated from them to the people, than if they were all to be convened at one time, in one place.
    ...
    The process of election affords a moral certainty, that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications. Talents for low intrigue, and the little arts of popularity, may alone suffice to elevate a man to the first honors in a single State; but it will require other talents, and a different kind of merit, to establish him in the esteem and confidence of the whole Union, or of so considerable a portion of it as would be necessary to make him a successful candidate for the distinguished office of President of the United States.
    ...

    http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fed68.asp

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    Quote Originally Posted by njtom View Post
    I sincerely hope that the Electoral College elects Pence rather than Trump. Although I disagree with some of Pence's positions, I believe he is a man of integrity and high moral values. Trump seems to me to be the exact opposite.

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    My personal opinion is that the electoral college is no longer applicable to today's needs, but that's not my main point of posting here.

    You said that you "hope the Electoral College elects Pence"....what do you mean? How would that even be possible? (to me that would be MUCH better than Trump, but I haven't heard of that even being a possibility)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lista View Post
    My personal opinion is that the electoral college is no longer applicable to today's needs, but that's not my main point of posting here.

    You said that you "hope the Electoral College elects Pence"....what do you mean? How would that even be possible? (to me that would be MUCH better than Trump, but I haven't heard of that even being a possibility)
    Under the constitution, they are free to elect a different person. I really doubt it will happen, but one can hope, no? :)

    Personally, I would prefer almost any other Republican than Trump; e.g., Pence, Romney, McCain (but not Christie!!).

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